I think it's sarcasm not condescension, in support of you

If Walls is true to his tough talking ways as a journalist he will be telling Bolton is put a line through Murphy.

100%. Bolton is many things, but a coach ain't one.

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Fair enough, my apologies.

I'm a bit touchy at the moment.

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True. You had us as favourites due to the vibe and mabo etc.

You're not alone

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That’s enough. Thanks for your service Bolts but it’s time to move on.

Yep, hence why I'm as pissed off as I am.

If they're actually fair dinkum about being a professional side that will improve in anyway, today should've been a win. If they can't stand up when a situation like today presents itself, they're beyond @#$%&! help IMO.

Whether this is directly Bolton's fault or not, my confidence in his ability to strip away the bullshit timidness that has plagued our teams for too long has taken a big hit today.

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I hear O’Meara had 11 touches in the first qtr and the Dees decided to place a hard tag on him which resulted in 8 possessions for the rest of the game... the morons

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Dude, we were never ever favourites, despite your daily proclamations and after losing over 500 games of experience were never s chance, hence the bookies smashing our odds out long. It was loopy for anyone to have backed us today and I am perplexed by your insistence we were favourites.

We brought in a hack ruck who has lost us games this year, a debutant, a third year player who hasn’t been on the park for two years and averaged 11 possessions a game when he did play, and you expect us to be improved? Nup. Never gonna happen.

I hazard a guess North were around 26yo per player and we were 23. That’s why the bookies backed them not us. Forget the vibe. Forget Mabo. Forget etc.

We were up against it from a Thursday night on.

Average Attributes
Carlton Attribute North Melbourne
188.4cm Height 188.5cm
86.3kg Weight 88.0kg
23yr 9mth Age 26yr 3mth
68.1 Games 110.2
Total Players By Games
Carlton Games North Melbourne
13 Less than 50 6
4 50 to 99 3
2 100 to 149 7
3 150 or more 6

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Then why did Dwayno keep telling us we came into the game as favourites?

He gets paid loads for being inept.

He must have shit for brains.

NM jumped about $1.60, money had come for them all week.

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Stops at the top.
Why didn't the players on mass not put in the required effort.

You can blame the players when it is one or two who lower their colors . But today the entire team did.

They too are not buying his bullshit.

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Hazard a guess?

Nice try... you would have had that graphed and worked out before Friday morning

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I'm a fan of Bolts. But unless he can find a way to get us competitive in winnable games against weak opposition, he's little chance of surviving into next year.

Just can't see him surviving, unfortunately, if we finish bottom on 4 wins or less, and conceding the 1st pick in the draft to Adelaide.

Agree Bv woeful effort from the players no accountability

Disgraceful inept effort that let 60,000 members down

Insult to the members against a very ordinary side


Unfortunately though if we continue not to get up or turn up for winnable games the coach will eventually get it in the neck

It is completely embarrassing to be beaten by the bottom side by that much

More critically we knew after the first 3 goals it was going to happen and they wouldn't dig in

Why on earth would anyone objectively go next week against the Carringbush
I will but what in that effort would inspire any would be members to go or support

Laughing stock and it has to stop

I’m on holidays.

I'm frankly too pissed off to get into a lengthy argument and am the first to admit I'm not thinking too clearly. But I'll just leave this here and move on.

The above factors you quote are exactly the things this team needs to learn to overcome if they have any aspirations to leave the bottom, let alone become a force. To me we were "favourites" today because I stupidly believed they were ready to take the next step and rise above the usual excuses.

My predictions were based on the two team lineups I saw, and what I saw was an inexperienced but talented group versus the worst performed 22 in the competition, despite their age and experience advantage.

None of the factors you raise are any excuse for lack of effort, or being unprepared. Nuffies like us on an internet forum knew they'd come out breathing fire and would try to hit us hard, yet our players were still surprised and barely raised a whimper in response.

Not to mention that we should be well beyond the point of relying on 30+ year olds who are nearing the end of their careers to do the heavy lifting for us.

And the Mabo/vibe thing was a joke. Just a way of saying I couldn't be arsed writing a long essay about why I felt today's game was very winnable and a crucial stepping stone. But I guess I've just gone and done it now.

Overall, given we're in the Bolton thread, games like today are the definition of coach-killers.

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