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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:05 pm 
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I honestly don't know how our players can get into such a mental state to perform like today.

Just so off the mark for a highly talented group of players.


No direction, no spirit, no guidance. I won’t change until change is made at the top.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:11 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Rexy wrote:
I honestly don't know how our players can get into such a mental state to perform like today.

Just so off the mark for a highly talented group of players.


No direction, no spirit, no guidance. I won’t change until change is made at the top.


No spirit? No @#$%&! idea.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:31 pm 
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You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:33 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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Bolton will defy everyone’s expectations, better than that dud Tony Abbott ever did, he who was always going to prove everyone wrong but never did.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:35 pm 
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yeah lets leave politics out of this thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:36 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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Bolton will defy everyone’s expectations, better than that dud Tony Abbott ever did, he who was always going to prove everyone wrong but never did.
You will come around eventually Verbs but unfortunately you are one of those people who buys into the bullshit.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:38 pm 
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Lets not forget that Brisbane last year had an eerily similar loss to the Gold Coast in round 5, on their way to a 0-8 start.

Now they're everyone's darlings.

It can change quickly as hard as it is to swallow right now.

Clutching at straws? So be it, got nothing else left :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:43 pm 
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i actually thought it was the best coached game bolton's had for us.

all the homework & prep had been done on limiting the Suns spread and use of the rebound. defensively we were excellent. bolton made some good changes during the game

but sending gov back in the last 3 mins as an extra marking back was a good decision. gov just pissed it all away by inexplicably not being on the goaline from the stoppage. if gov was where he was meant to be (on the line), he stops the ball, boots it long down the flank and we win the game.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:44 pm 
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diabolical selection

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:44 pm 
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Serously, under a goal lead with three minutes left and we go ultra defensive? Dumb

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:59 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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What about the President
Jeanie
Craig Mathieson
Marcus Clarke
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:59 pm 
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what we dont know is what is game plan vs poor execution. the long bombs to Gibbons were baffling

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:02 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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What about the President
Jeanie
Craig Mathieson
Marcus Clarke
Etc
Exactly what I was saying they have bought the bullshit. They are just as much to blame

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:05 pm 
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So after 4 rounds the Saints, Brisbane and GC have all won 3 games and we are back to familiar surroundings. How nice it would be to support a competitive team.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:15 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
keogh wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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What about the President
Jeanie
Craig Mathieson
Marcus Clarke
Etc
Exactly what I was saying they have bought the bullshit. They are just as much to blame

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But they run the club
Their ultimately responsible and need to go
How is the question I don’t hAve an answer for


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:19 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
keogh wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
You see managers like Bolton in industry all the time. They speak the right language say all the right things. Always talking about development, Kpi's , structure bonding and team work and team bonding.
They move around a lot often upper management buys into their bullshit.
Those who work them out quickly usually are moved on or decide to move on themselves.
Kevin Rudd was straight out of the same mold Bolton was produced in.
People buy into their enthusiasm they create an environment where people feel things are changing.
But when you read through the double speak and cliches and one liners you suddenly realise there is no substance.
Carlton supporters over the coming weeks and months are going to suddenly realise this just the same way the Australian public did with Rudd.
I am sorry I have been saying it for a long time but Bolton is not your man

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What about the President
Jeanie
Craig Mathieson
Marcus Clarke
Etc
Exactly what I was saying they have bought the bullshit. They are just as much to blame

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But they run the club
Their ultimately responsible and need to go
How is the question I don’t hAve an answer for
They wouldn't be the first directors to sit back and watch the CEO GM and staff send a company to the wall.
It's up to the share holders to hold them accountable but unfortunately the share holders have all fallen for the bullshit

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:27 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
what we dont know is what is game plan vs poor execution. the long bombs to Gibbons were baffling


I'm on holidays on the Sunshine Coast. I drove my family 2h20min each way for that shit. I just could not believe we were kicking it to Gibbons when we have McKay, Levi, McGovern and Charlie to chose from.

It's proof that Bolton is so far out of his depth it's embarrassing.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:40 pm 
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Bring in Luke Hodge next year as coach


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:48 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
what we dont know is what is game plan vs poor execution. the long bombs to Gibbons were baffling


I'm on holidays on the Sunshine Coast. I drove my family 2h20min each way for that shit. I just could not believe we were kicking it to Gibbons when we have McKay, Levi, McGovern and Charlie to chose from.

It's proof that Bolton is so far out of his depth it's embarrassing.


You might want to watch his presser then where he was asked about that. He pretty much said that was just poor decision making and a lack of composure by the players and he highlighted the disconnect between our mids and forwards. He's pretty much on the money, but as I have been saying since the draft, our midfield is too young, small and inexperienced for us to be expecting more than a few wins this year. Let's hope Kreuzer, Lang and Kennedy come back soon to alleviate some of the pressure for them.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
The Duke wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
what we dont know is what is game plan vs poor execution. the long bombs to Gibbons were baffling


I'm on holidays on the Sunshine Coast. I drove my family 2h20min each way for that shit. I just could not believe we were kicking it to Gibbons when we have McKay, Levi, McGovern and Charlie to chose from.

It's proof that Bolton is so far out of his depth it's embarrassing.


You might want to watch his presser then where he was asked about that. He pretty much said that was just poor decision making and a lack of composure by the players and he highlighted the disconnect between our mids and forwards. He's pretty much on the money, but as I have been saying since the draft, our midfield is too young, small and inexperienced for us to be expecting more than a few wins this year. Let's hope Kreuzer, Lang and Kennedy come back soon to alleviate some of the pressure for them.


Hope is all we've got but it's not going to make any difference. I'll put my house on it.

The buck stops with Bolton. If there's a lack of composure, poor decision making to that extent, it comes back to the head coach.

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