I know you didn't ask me. but, coaches instil confidence. our players (at times) look too scared to make a mistake, they hesitate all over the park, they make fundamental errors. and of course while they try so hard not to, it inevitably happens.

there's a correlation back to coaching for everything our players are doing on the field. when chad cornes (yeah, i know) says we don't know how to win, he's fairly spot on. psychologically we look shot.

In bolton's first season i was a believer in what he was doing. the contrast from his coaching style from Mick's was night and day. every player on the park was having a dip. the contrast from that first season under bolton, compared to now, is again, night and day.

Spot on.

An 18-year-old kid needs 'coaching' to get the best out of them. The same applies to a 30 year old.

They know how to kick a football, which should go without saying but nonetheless, they need to have the confidence to have their skill extracted. If they're too busy trying to figure out where they're supposed to be, or what they're supposed to be doing they'll be forever under pressure which puts their skills under pressure.

As I've mentioned, a very good friend of mine works closely with AFL players and I've been educated on what it takes to get the best out of them. There's a good reason why some teams get consistent results and we get @#$%&! all. I'm sure the players like Bolts, he's a nice guy. He just can't coach a group of young men to their potential.

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Interesting that Hardwick was at it again yesterday, straight after the loss. Deflects media attention away from the team's performance. And seeks to gain an umpiring advantage in weeks to come. I hate that the AFL works that way. But I can't help feeling we're conceding an advantage by taking the high ground.

The sad part about your response after stating I have NFI, is that you really don't have one either, it's all opinion based on an end result. It's sometimes easier to cut the snake off at the head especially with the use of only 1 KPI, win/loss. But that hasn't worked for us yet, so instead of bagging the coach and things you have no clue about at the club and professing you're "educated" at an AFL development coach level. Understand the process, the team demographic and where we truly are as a club at this point in time and look for the signs of improvement from the team. It'll make watching the games a whole lot better for you.

Lose to Gold Coast and the natives will start to get restless. The drums will be beating.

It is critical that the whole club hold its nerve at this point (officials and supporters). Don't worry about outside noise.

We need to be united to give these players and coaches all the opportunity in the world to get it right. At the very least they deserve this.

The night is darkest just before dawn.

You must be the most clueless on here. We have won 3 from 35, 15 from 69 overall under Bolton. That's diabolical. We are poorly drilled and structure, game plan, what is it, bomb down the line, bomb into the F50 as we have no clue how to move a ball quickly and efficiently. And this is the 4th year in. You must think everything is so rosy! Other clubs that were around us are improving but us despite us, i think, having a better list now than most of them. Not sure about your ability to read a scoreboard, watching what is happening on the ground and knowing anything about the game, but it stands out to anyone who has a clue. You not being one of them.

Jog on mate.

We’re all pissed but let’s keep the personal shots out of it. Only warning.

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Very classy. Great way to promote informed and intelligent discussion on a forum.

Let's chat in 12 months time.

You may be right, but there's a good chance you won't be.

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It is getting pretty tiresome waiting "just another 12 months"

Think we have heard that for about 120 months at least.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

can anyone here legitimately argue against: that as a club, we've regressed from Bolton year one, to Bolton year 4?

the on field product really is nothing short of calamitous. Working from home this weekend I watched 6 games across the league ... and when I say we are the worst team in the league, the daylight between us and the next worst team i've seen this year -- the saints, is enormous.

the brand of footy we are playing; the ball movement, the passengers we're carrying across the park who don't get involved, the forward 50 efficiency, the skill level, the structure-less vacuum we're caught in; is reserve grade stuff. even then, there would be VFL teams which could take us.

year 4 into the rebuild, it just shouldn't be like this, should it?

In all fairness I think Bolton needs to be assessed after a period of time with a near fully fit list.

You can’t underestimate Dochertys absence, to this years young list. Add him and a fit Williamson and our defence looks great. Slot in a fit Cuningham and Charlie and that’s just 4 players who change the team completely.

all teams battle with injuries to key players. it's a big part of the game. did i read correctly, west coast won their flag with 6 of their best 22 missing?

Gold Coast
Bulldogs
Hawthorn
North Melb

Crucial block ahead with none of those games exactly being mission impossible. Dare I ask what a pass mark should be? Two wins?

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We lose all of them and he will be very lucky to still be coach.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

That makes them a more impressive premier than Richmond IMO. Not sure how to equate the Eagles with us at this point though.

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If we’re still winless after that batch it tells me either
a) Bolton is a poor coach
b) The players clearly don’t love him as much as we’re led to believe

In either case, my defences of Bolton would be decimated, and I’d find it hard to continue.

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The problem stems from an outdated board who all need to go
otherwise we will be going nowhere
Pratt, Mathieson,The Pres etc appointed SOS who then gets Paul Brodie
to the club ,a bloke who shouldnt be at any AFL club given his past

Our recruiting and list management our still shit
SOS and the pres our mates
SOS is a Carlton legend
SOS has recruited so many ordinary players from other clubs
that move the ball too slowly
That’s why he haven’t scored over 100 points in over50 matches
Then he and his team recruit a one trick pony in McGovern in
exchange for 3 players and Fasolo who should be playing for a
club like Eltham
No idea
Bolton ain’t the problem

I reckon Bolton needs to take some blame. SoS too.

You forget about the lemmings around TC and BF who continue on about the “in SOS we trust” mantra, so therefore nothing will change.


But otherwise

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The disconnect between supporters expectations and reality is truly boggling to me. How can people expect us to play the same game styles as other teams when most if not all teams have 1 midfielder with more experience then Crippa, SPS, Fisher, Dow and Walsh combined. Surely you can see that this is a massive problem for us. That’s even before you start adding in other factors like rucks, games played together etc. I personally think people see players like Walsh and go he’s a gun and he’s as good as a Gaff or Selwood right now. And then go through our list matching their versions of like for like, it’s crazy.
We have the core players now it’s “development” time and that’s exactly what is required is time. Because we haven’t just added established talent like Hawthorn, Geelong and even Gold Coast to some extent. We have just rebuilt the list from the bottom up mainly with kids and everything everyone is complaining about on game day is a direct result of this and only time playing together will change the end result. I bought my membership this year knowing it was a development year hoping to win a few games only with 6 being a great result especially if most are at the end of the year. Next year is my crunch year for the club as a whole. Go Blues.