Pass

This.

The old Carlton sakced coaches. The old Carlton won matches.

The new Carlton won't sakc coaches. The new Carlton can't win matches.

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The old Carlton was a lonnng time ago. If you think somehow we’re going to replicate those days by clicking our fingers or sacking coaches you’re mistaken.

We lose this and Bolts can go roll himself out the door. That would be a case of enough being enough.

We have won our last 2 games there though.

Yeah, sacking Brittain, Pagan, Ratten & Malthouse really turned things around for us.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Suggest we keep someone who's won 3 from the last 35? He's not getting the best out of the group, not by a longshot. Not as if our side is shit now.

The old Carlton, paying players under the table and cheating the salary cap. Bring back those days!

At what point do you think we should move Bolts on? You give us your measurement for his success.

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It’s not about being 4 games into the season, it’s about being 4 seasons into his tenure.

I know we’ve turned the list over but this list is underperforming. From round 14 2017 to round 3 2019 we’ve won 3 games, by 7, 13 and 35 points. We’ve lost as many games by 100 points as we’ve won in the same time.

In the first couple of years we had a system and were able to win a few against the odds, I don’t know what the game plan is anymore.

He has to be running out of time

Not even that, just tell me what the game plan is

You can’t turn over 50 odd players in 5 years and expect consistency, it’s just not going to happen. Yes he’s been there for 3 years but he’s been left with an extremely inexperienced list after sos has ripped the list apart. We all want to see improvement but with such a young list it takes time.

Na that’s not at all what I’m saying. The point is sometimes you invest in something, you try your hardest and you really really want it to work, but it doesn’t. By ruthless I mean you must look at the facts and make a decision based on what we see. I think we have almost fallen into the ‘we can’t sack him thats the old Carlton’.

32 out of 35 games.. we have won 3 times in a season and a half, and yet we all seem content to keep on coping it? I mean really?

October 2020.

So if Bolts has zero say in who stays and who goes, and SOS is the architect behind our entire list re-build (which I don't believe for a second, but anyway), why is SOS still there?

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I get the list changes but I don’t see any system to the way we play.

That's easy... Wide wide wide bomb to F50 contest

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Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

If Bolts had been coaching the same team for 4 years I would understand the calls for his sacking. But he has a completely new squad.

Win, lose or draw next week he is not going to be sacked.

If by the end of the season we are not showing signs of coming together as a group (and have had a half decent run with injuries), I would consider replacing him at that point.

Until then, I suggest everyone sit back and enjoy the roller coaster ride.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Nor should he be.
He must be allowed to see out his rebuild. If it doesn't work, then out he goes but if he goes early and we don't immediately jump into the finals with this list, he can always say we pulled the trigger too soon, before the job was complete.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Out
Gibbons
Polson
Lobbe

In
Kennedy
Silvagni
Phillips (assuming he is fit)

Need to wait and see regarding McGovern - I believe he wanted to come back on the field but was left off as a precautionary measure (hamstring).

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There is no footy god

Couldn't have said it any better myself.