That is a view.

Not a nice view - but a view nonetheless.

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when does a view become dogma?

when does discussion become another boring shout to be heard?

if it is all about wanting to have a say perhaps facebook (selfies and all)?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Well, may I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay Hotel window?

Sydney Opera House, perhaps? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the veldt.


Apologies to John Cleese.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

So here's one from the "random" file.

I was out for my usual post-work bike ride yesterday and ended up randomly chatting with another rider. Stocky lad by the name of Chris. Got to talking about footy pretty quick (as things normally do with me). Turns out Chris played in the midfield for the Box Hill hawks under Bolts for a few years.

He was adamant that what the media gets from him is totally textbook. He *hates* losing. Can't stand it. He'd be pushing as hard as anyone for wins.

I hope our list is good enough and that he's able to get the most out of them.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

I don't think that any coach or player would be accepting of loses, it's a balancing act of pushing them that close enough if not good enough and keeping belief in the group that they can win.

Think of it the same as your kids, push them too hard and be too down when they lose and they will quit as it's not fun anymore. Balance that with a bit of encouragement when they have given it their all, but simply not good enough ATM for the win.

At this stage all signs I see from the club indicates to me that Bolts is striking the right balance.

Totally agree. I guess my post was for ppl that think Bolton somehow "accepts" losses and that therefore our players will too. Another thing Chris said is that Bolts is a fantastic teacher and truly helped him and the other guys at Box Hill grow and develop as people.

I want to be proud of my footy club for winning, but no team can win all the time and what goes up must come down (and hopefully for us the inverse is true!) and so I also want to be proud of the people Carlton is producing off field as well.

I think Bolts is our man and when our players click on field, I maintain we'll all be pleasantly surprised how quickly we rise.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Hates losing - you should see me after a loss it’s not a pretty sight, even though I knew before hand that a win was very long odds.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

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Very sensible post.

Clearly not enough people have quoted our W/L record to robertbb and Steve_C7 lately...that’d shut down their “rational” arguments good and proper!

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Not true at all. Off field we are great. Strength and conditioning department is great. Depth of our assistant coaches is great. On field leadership improving. I just don’t have faith in Bolton. He speaks in tired cliches and I am not sure he has the ability to push the right buttons to get maximum effort for consistent periods of games. If holding that view gets me banned from this forum, then so be it.

I personally don't think you can judge a coach's ability to communicate with and inspire players based on press conferences and made-for-fans video content.

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Great post.
It's the win loss ration that decides that.

Well isn't it?

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

With the injuries we had last year, I don't think W/L for 2018 really paints a picture worth looking at. Some class players also had a bad year for certain reasons (e.g. Weitering, who so far this year has been rock solid). It was the perfect storm.

This is basically a new side. As has been said, it was Port's senior players that got them over the line in the end. We fielded a side of kids by comparison. Don't forget we got belted by ~100 points by Port over there last year... if you'd told me a competitive 3 goal loss would be the outcome before the game I'd have taken that, considering the comparative age of our side.

One of our worst players against Port was Murphy (fair enough he got clobbered, but I don't think he was particularly good before the knock) who is our former captain and should be leading by example. It was our young blokes that really dug in, I thought.

Don't get me wrong. I want to see success. I'm 37 - seen one flag ('95) that I can remember (and was lucky enough to be at). But I am realistic enough to know that this will take some time and that we really only began the process PROPERLY with the draft of 2016.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

It takes more than 1 pre season to reap the rewards of a new high performance department, so bit hard on Bolton saying that he has all the tools at his disposal.

He was clearly hamstrung last year with the players he had available at his disposal, further the injuries resulted in a wasted year as we couldn't even get games and chemistry into our players tha we so desperately need.

Compare that to Brisbane who managed to got a couple years with their team playing together consistently and now looking like a decent team.

FWIW you are more than welcome to hold your own view on our coach and club, I just use different metrics to judge his performance than you. I look at the talent we have attracted to our club and the long term signings of our talented youth as signs that our players, their managers and targeted players believe in the messaging that Bolts is delivering.

To each their own I suppose

Not even close

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Well what is it?
The number of barbecues he invites them to?
If you know what it isn't, you must know what it is by a process of elimination.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

I have no doubt Bolts hates losing. We all hate losing. I reckon Bolts is a great guy who is a really good communicator.

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he's all of those things, i'd also add a great motivator and team morale builder. but, this season will tell if he's HC material. last season wasn't good, but injuries & list management were an outlier beyond his control.


there's enough evidence to suggest he isn't the kind of gameday strategist to be a HC, but more a career line coach. there's also moments here & there where he looks like he might belong.

history is against him. no coach with his record to start a career has ever made a GF let alone win one. so he's going to have to beat some steep odds to stay.

but the great thing about footy is, time will tell what he is. we just gots to wait and see. in the meantime lets all shit can one another for having an opinion ... bcos that makes for sensational forumming.

Question is whether he can coach (at AFL level). I think he can, but the jury is out until we've had the team together for a while.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

I agree. Some people don't seem capable of hearing views that differ from their own.

I hope every week the team and Bolts can turn it around. Cheering for a loss is as foreign as pretending to support Essendon* - it's just not even a consideration.

Nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong on Bolts' coaching ability.

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