Wow

We got within 3 goals of Port, I'd have taken that in the lead up to the game WITH Charlie playing.

We have so many players under 50 games. We are developing and from what I see the future is looking bright.

Out Fasolo, thanks but no, not now, not ever again.

Polson, well done. You've been given many chances and now you've grabbed your opportunity. Well played.

Gov was great, so too Walsh, Dow & Samo. I could go on.

We aren't far off. Losing is shit but we are clearly headed in the right direction.

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Interesting insight.

Do you seriously believe a disparate group don't know how to win?

Maybe we did bloody well interstate against a strong team without Charlie.

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you know what, some of you blokes just need to take a break from the club i think.

nothing but negatives ...

forget what has happened the last few years, its only now that we are starting to see the side that is going to take us forward. they are literally 2 games into what will need to be 50-60 before it really starts to click.

I thought SPS, Dow where great, I thought Polson should some real glimpses, i though McGovern shown some real glimpses, as did Weitering ...not one of those players has played 100 games ... whats happened to the 50-100 game rule ... seems to me like there is alot of impatient people wanting instant success ... like the bombers ... and look where that has got them!!

Docherty, Marchbank into that side, and the defence looks way better. Curnow out after 15 mins but plays the whole game and the forward looks better. Walsh, Dow, Cripps, SPS and Co play more games together and we win ...

I look at who one that game for them .... it was gray (200 games) it was motlop (150+) rockcliff, boak, ebert ... playing on their home grown etc..

it was far from the disaster some of you blokes seem to imagine it to be ...

actually thought Port, made us pay when Charlie went down, Murphy was out for ... lost our structure abit and with the new runner rule, dont think we handled that well, and port made us pay for it.

something the club and its players need to learn quickly ... and how to adapt ... but its going to be the year of honorable losses ... if you arent prepared for that, id suggest picking another past time to spend your time on ...

i think we are a real chance next week against the swans. 1st win for the season.

Yes I do.
They get into parts of the game where it could go either way and bottle it.

I laugh at people who accept losing and criticise those who don't.
Just because you have been conditioned to losing like the players don't think we all have to feel like that.

I have been saying it for years and even under Malthouse if you are told it not wins that matter its process or small steps or learning that matters as soon as you get to that point in a game where everything is on the line you just accept it.

You can see all play out before your eyes.


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This.
On another note, Essendon* is in a worse position than us, and Shiel is asking his manager if they included a 6 month cooling off window in his contract!
On another note, St Kilda now has as many wins as we had all of 2018.

Finally, I think we are building a strong team. But we need to unearth or find a strong ruckman for the next 10yeqrs.

Yeah but you were sinking the boots in during the second quarter then went all quiet in the third

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We go above Essendon* and Sydney next week

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I have only seen the first half but that 2nd quarter was terrible and costly.
I hope Charlie is okay, didnt look good at the time.
Getting sick of losing to be honest.

We are above premiership contender Melbourne this week.


Green shoots.

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I want wins as much as everyone. Extremely disappointed we haven’t pinched one yet. But I see the positives and the improvement.

Have liked Bolts in both after match pressers. Believe he’s spot on with what we need to improve.

Have been in both games at 3 qtr time. We simply need to step up and execute the basics for longer

Pros

Weiters
Jones
Crippa
SPS
Gov
Harry
Fight back in the 3rd in tough conditions interstate

Cons

Garlett. Massive liability down back. Too soft. Gives away stupid free kicks. Fumbles too much. Not giving us much the other way.

Murphy. Copped a huge knock and credit for coming back but his skills and kicking were woeful today.

Forward line cohesion. How many times did 2 or 3 of our players fly against each other?

Fasolo. Not doing enough to hold his spot imho.

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Gov was unsighted in the last...can't believe some say he had a good game

SPS was serviceable AT BEST

Murphy is now borderline liability

Garlett is just sh1t

Fisher quiet

Gibbons had a much better game than last week. Pass mark

Fasolo was insipid but I'll cut him slack for half a year

Plowman, Jones and Weiters were all good

Polson tried hard but relatively ineffective. He needs uninterrupted game time

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Dumb skill errors and decision making costs us goals time and time again.

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I don’t think anyone is accepting defeats, but it’s a bloody tough competition and I can see reasons for things happening.

We are coming off a 2 win season with a percentage of 59, and about 40% of the regular best 22 now different.

There would of been no one on here who would of thought we would of won either of these games before round 1.

In saying that we have a golden opportunity against Sydney and need to win games to show tangible improvement.

This.

There were so many positives today, but the supporter frustration comes from the team showing what we’re capable of to get to winning positions, and then when the games there for the taking, we go to pieces and switch back into the ‘old Carlton’ ways.
- Been getting killed on the counter attack for years, and problem not rectified.
- Still give away a heap of unnecessary frees in our defensive 50 which lead to cheap goals.
- Allow teams to pile on a big string of consecutive goals too often
- Skill level and decision making still below most other teams.

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My issue is 2 wins from the last 37 games. That is really bad. We've seen these close losses to good teams many times only to be poor against teams we should beat. Those latter games will be our test.


We've 15 from 68 in the Bolton era but 11 or 12 were in the first year and a half. 6 of those wins were in 7 games in his first year.

Pros:
Some really nice ball movement again. That’s 2 weeks in a row.
Terrific first quarter.
Cripps, Weitering, Harry and SPS. His kicking is a real weapon.
McGovern is high impact.
Liked Gibbons’ game. He already looks like he belongs. Just needs to hit the scoreboard.
Thought Polson had an impact as well.
Garlett was encouraging.

Cons:
Another umpiring masterpiece at an interstate venue (in the 50 metre arcs) to help the home side get across the line. Very high up in goal assists. (Apparently 50 metre penalties only go to one team.)
We can’t win, without winning the clearances. We’re just not as effective as other teams in space. Their bigger bodies prevailed.
Beaten by another quick burst of goals. Need to find a way to score when the opposition is on top (like other sides can). Probably a little slow compared to other sides.
Didn’t think we tackled as well this week.
Our young midfielders show plenty of promise. But not quite enough impact to get over the line. We need more from Murphy and Fisher.
Charlie’s injury. He was looking good this week too.
Fasolo pretty invisible again. At least he hits the scoreboard, I guess.

Polson's third got us back in the game so well done to him.

Garkett - na

Fasolo - na

Weitering - fantastic game

Murph and Curnow off in the second threw us way out.

Bring on the Swans.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I suppose that's aimed at me, seeing as I sunk the boot into him.

He directly cost us two goals through lack of awareness and stupid footy.
1. Gave away a free in our forward pocket by slinging a player when the ball was already dead. The ball went straight down the other end for a goal.
2. was in a two on one on the boundary and instead of letting it go out, handballed without looking straight to a Port player who was less than two metres away and it went down for a goal.

He doesn't go the long option when it's on. Once yesterday he kicked a beautiful long range ball to advantage but he usually gets caught out trying the short stuff as his first option.

If you want to look at someone who knows how to play footy and has since day one, look at Pendelbury. SPS is no less skilled on both sides but Pendlebury lopes along and gets the ball out of the congestion whereas SPS ends up on hi sleft too much and then goes the short option to a contest.

I have said all along he could be anything and when he has the footy he can make things happen but he doesn't and he isn't Robinson Crusoe.

Cripps is ne of the best players in the comp but he did two little-league things yesterday that were just dumb.
1. he marked the footy more or less on the fifty, ten metres from the boundary and didn't play on, which was probably OK but he went back for his kick and then passed it to someone who was further out than the man on the mark and closer to the boundary. It was the act of someone who took the easy option instead of the best one. Later in the game, he had a free in the centre and he just gently lobbed into a nest of PA players for an uncontested mark inside our F50.

My question is why do good players do dumb stuff like that? It's all very well to make mistakes under pressure, even the best of plaers do that but three of those four incidents I mentioned were not under any pressure at all and one was a lack of awareness.


I don't hate any of our players but I do hate this acceptance from the players, the coach and an increasing number of the supporters on here of a performance like that where we should have been able to go with them in the last. It was pathetic. They gave up after Gray kicked that first goal.

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