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Arnhem blues
 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:00 pm 
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B. Pickett Weitering Williamson

HB. Docherty Jones Simpson

C. SPS Cripps Fisher

HF. McGovern Curnow Walsh

F. Polson McKay Garlett

R. Kruezer Murphy Kennedy

I.C Dow E.Curnow Setterfield Marchbank/McCreadie

Comments- No more stupidly tall sides - Time to move on from Rowe/Daisy/Kerridge/Graham, use only in emergency.

Pickett license to run from h/b, want him fit as his ever been and working on core strength to break tackles. He should be making Neville Jetta look like Oakley-Nicholls, no more ##### about.

McGovern rotating with Curnow in a floating outside the contest midfield role and CHF role. Walsh playing outside mid from h/f don't want him getting banged up inside the contest in his first year.

Hardest spot to fill is small forwards, battle between Garlett Fasolo Lang.

Plowman Marchbank would want to show a lot more strength/commitment and desperation in the contest.

Cover against 3 tall FWD line with Marchy/Mcreadie in side, can also rotate Jones as floating spare against 2 tall FWD line with one of those two on the ground for a small, Jones plays his best football in that role and is a real weapon.



I was wondering about Polson in the forward line.
He does have an excellent first step. In the middle he then always goes for the second and gets caught. Wonder if he can be trained to do his 'first step evade thing' and then snap for goal rather than try to straighten up and run with it....We are still looking for another good small forward.
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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Polson has played forward every game. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:37 pm 
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Arnhem blues wrote:
smithy wrote:
B. Pickett Weitering Williamson

HB. Docherty Jones Simpson

C. SPS Cripps Fisher

HF. McGovern Curnow Walsh

F. Polson McKay Garlett

R. Kruezer Murphy Kennedy

I.C Dow E.Curnow Setterfield Marchbank/McCreadie

Comments- No more stupidly tall sides - Time to move on from Rowe/Daisy/Kerridge/Graham, use only in emergency.

Pickett license to run from h/b, want him fit as his ever been and working on core strength to break tackles. He should be making Neville Jetta look like Oakley-Nicholls, no more ##### about.

McGovern rotating with Curnow in a floating outside the contest midfield role and CHF role. Walsh playing outside mid from h/f don't want him getting banged up inside the contest in his first year.

Hardest spot to fill is small forwards, battle between Garlett Fasolo Lang.

Plowman Marchbank would want to show a lot more strength/commitment and desperation in the contest.

Cover against 3 tall FWD line with Marchy/Mcreadie in side, can also rotate Jones as floating spare against 2 tall FWD line with one of those two on the ground for a small, Jones plays his best football in that role and is a real weapon.



I was wondering about Polson in the forward line.
He does have an excellent first step. In the middle he then always goes for the second and gets caught. Wonder if he can be trained to do his 'first step evade thing' and then snap for goal rather than try to straighten up and run with it....We are still looking for another good small forward.


Yeah has all the tools but still hasn't quite settled to the pace as yet, but neither had Fisher at the same stage. I still have high hopes for him to be a 60-40 fwd-mid in time. When he hits the 50-60 game mark think we'll be pleasantly surprised.

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Kouta wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
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List balance looks far better if Kennedy, Cripps and Setterfield can get their hands dirty to win the hard ball and feed it out to Dow, Walsh and Fisher.


And SPS. Hoping we can see a bit more flair from him next season.

We need a young ruck so we can play the kids...

B: Plowman Weitering Williamson
HB: Docherty Marchbank O’Brien
C: Fisher Kennedy Petrevski-Seton
HF: Polson Curnow Pickett
F: McGovern McKay Silvagni
R: De Koning Cripps Dow

I: Macreadie Setterfield Walsh Cuningham

E: Graham Schumacher Lang Garlett Kerr

I give SOS a tick for bringing in youth.


Wow that really is an insanely talented young team. Would that whole team be 23 and under? Pretty close. Maybe plowman and McGovern 24. We have finally rebuilt properly. The foundation is there. Anything we add now is a bonus. The next decade is going to be fun


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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fun if people remember they are kids and it will still take time but yes, that is a much, much better list than the list Bolts inherited.

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 Post subject: Our best 22?
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fun if people remember they are kids and it will still take time but yes, that is a much, much better list than the list Bolts inherited.


Obviously... but imagine in 5 years when this group is all 28 and under.. plus whoever else we add in the next 5 drafts and trades. The hardest thing is going to be keeping this group together and under the salary cap


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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Blue Vain wrote:
Polson has played forward every game. :?


Oh - my mistake. My memory is always of him trying to run through traffic to pass rather than shoot.
Obviously didn't study it enough. :smile:
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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ATM;
Simpson Weitering Plowman
Williamson Marchbank Docherty
Fisher Cripps LOB
Pickett Charlie Murphy
McKay McGovern SPS
Kreuzer Dow Setterfield
From; Walsh Kennedy Fasolo Cuningham

Just missing another a grade mid and a power forward ex; Jordan De Goey...
McGovern can drop back if required.
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jake_h03
 Post subject: Our best 22?
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blueboy23 wrote:
ATM;
Simpson Weitering Plowman
Williamson Marchbank Docherty
Fisher Cripps LOB
Pickett Charlie Murphy
McKay McGovern SPS
Kreuzer Dow Setterfield
From; Walsh Kennedy Fasolo Cuningham

Just missing another a grade mid and a power forward ex; Jordan De Goey...
McGovern can drop back if required.


I think we’re missing a couple of small high pressure forwards more than a de goey type personally


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:30 pm 
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We have small forwards. Wpuldn't mind a couple more to add pressure on spots

Entry and Intensive development are the key to their success. We only need a couple by 2020. so pressure is on the following

Fisher
SPS
Pickett
Garlett
Lang
Polson
LeBois

2019-2021 I expect Murphy to make that spot his own, Might finish his career with a flag :gift:

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Throw in a B-grade uncontracted player as well, eg, Daniel Menzel.

And I reckon we should still throw some extra $$ at Libba, and have him nominate for the PS Draft and we give up nothing except pay some overs on $$. We have to pay 95% plus of salary cap, don't we? So why not take a risk on Libba, given that the reward could be huge?

Libba at his best, sharing stoppage and clearance work with Cripps, while Dow, Setterfield, Fisher and Walsh continue to develop, would be worth going extra yard to try and convince him to have a fresh start at Carlton, with our new High Performance guru.
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois

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Rexy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:52 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois


Lemmy's got some advice for these boys :thumbsup:

Evolution is a mystery
Full of change that no one sees
Clock makes a fool of history
Yesterday's too long ago
Don't agree with what I know
Tomorrow is the place to be

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution

See my reflection change
Nothing ever stays the same
But you know the names The Game
We all know what it means
Nothings ever what it seems
Unforgiven, unforseen

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
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johnny
 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:36 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois


Lemmy's got some advice for these boys :thumbsup:

Evolution is a mystery
Full of change that no one sees
Clock makes a fool of history
Yesterday's too long ago
Don't agree with what I know
Tomorrow is the place to be

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution

See my reflection change
Nothing ever stays the same
But you know the names The Game
We all know what it means
Nothings ever what it seems
Unforgiven, unforseen

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution


Although Orton as another mobile tall is tempting, they just don't fit our age demographic.
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bondiblue
 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:13 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois


Gosh its a good list.

Both teams look competitive. List balanced. No injuries helps.

I expect Jones and Setterfield to get a good run in the seniors in 2019.
Competition for spots is going to drive JSOS Lang Garlett and Cuningham to step up.

The addition of Docherty and Newman across HB is going to be a winner for years to come.
Nice to see Williamson on a wing. Good size and can ink with his marking...and that peg.

I just pray the boys get stronger, last longer and stay healthy from now on.

Bring on the preseason.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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Donstuie wrote:
Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois


Looks a good list :smoking:

Change I would make is swap Setterfield and Pickett, Macreadie and Newman
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Rexy
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johnny wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois


Lemmy's got some advice for these boys :thumbsup:

Evolution is a mystery
Full of change that no one sees
Clock makes a fool of history
Yesterday's too long ago
Don't agree with what I know
Tomorrow is the place to be

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution

See my reflection change
Nothing ever stays the same
But you know the names The Game
We all know what it means
Nothings ever what it seems
Unforgiven, unforseen

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution


Although Orton as another mobile tall is tempting, they just don't fit our age demographic.


:lol:
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Rexy wrote:
johnny wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Post-trade period Best 22 (assuming we pick up Walsh with 1, our F/S and keep rookie Lamb)

Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois


Lemmy's got some advice for these boys :thumbsup:

Evolution is a mystery
Full of change that no one sees
Clock makes a fool of history
Yesterday's too long ago
Don't agree with what I know
Tomorrow is the place to be

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution

See my reflection change
Nothing ever stays the same
But you know the names The Game
We all know what it means
Nothings ever what it seems
Unforgiven, unforseen

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand
Evolution
Evolution


Although Orton as another mobile tall is tempting, they just don't fit our age demographic.


:lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:26 pm 
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At this stage

Newman Jones Marchbank
Docherty Weitering Williamson
LOB Cripps Simpson
SPS Curnow Fisher
Murphy McKay McGovern
Kreuzer Kennedy Dow
Curnow Walsh Thomas Cuningham
EMG: Plowman, Pickett, Polson, Silvagni

I like Plowman but don't want to see four tall defenders in the team any more. Fingers crossed Williamson is fit and healthy, looked like a beauty in his first year. Haven't included Setterfield just yet, happy for him to build up in the VFL for a while. Was 50/50 on Cuningham or Pickett, I like the attributes they both have, here's hoping they both have breakout years.
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I just noticed something interesting on our list when going back to my 22 to see if I'd change anything.

Look at all the left-footers we have now.

Quote:
Seniors
B___Plowman___Weitering___Simpson
HB___Docherty___Marchbank___Newman
C___SPS___Cripps___Williamson
HF___Murphy___C.Curnow___LOB
F___Fasolo___McKay___McGovern
Foll___Kreuz___Dow___Fisher
Int___Kennedy___Walsh___Pickett___E.Curnow

Northern Blues
B___Lamb___Jones___Blakey
HB___Thomas___Macreadie___Schumacher
C___W.Hickmott___Setterfield___Garlett
HF___Cuningham___Casboult___Lang
F___Palmer___Kerr___JSOS
Foll___Lobbe___Fisher___Polson
Int___Philips___BSOS___Penrith___Lebois

Maybe we are becoming the new Hawthorn?

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