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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:28 am 
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Exactly. Don't worry about LoB - the curse of the TC sponsorship is going to lift and we'll be watching him get on the end of chains of play from HB and put the ball down the throat of our forwards for the better part of the next decade.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:27 pm 
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Gary Buckenara analyses Carlton’s list after the 2018 season

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:41 pm 
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What a pathetic analysis from Buckenara.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm 
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Effes wrote:
What a pathetic analysis from Buckenara.
Why I think it was spot on
What did he say that you dont agree with

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:57 pm 
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McKay didn't make any progress this year?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:10 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Effes wrote:
What a pathetic analysis from Buckenara.
Why I think it was spot on
What did he say that you dont agree with

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McKay took a step backward in 2018? 21 goals in 13 games, 3 goals in 2 games in 2017. Can't call that a step backwards for a developing tall.

Petrevski-Seton - averaged 16.1 disposals compared to 14 in his debut year. Again, you can hardly call that a step backwards for a second year midfielder.

He says Lang took a step backwards, then in the next sentence comments on Lang again in a different context. No mention of Lang's injuries issues either. He seems confused.

M Kennedy - injured in the opening minutes of the season and never really got going. Again, not mentioned as part of the group who had injury riddled years.

Cuningham - also injured for the bulk of the year - not mentioned in the group who had injury riddled years.

"Young players didn't show signs of progress", then he goes on to mention Fisher did show improvement. I've already mentioned McKay, but no mention from him about Charlie Curnow who kicked 34 goals, improving his goal average from 1 to 1.7 and ranking 12th in the AFL for average contested marks.

He has correctly identified issues with some players, but that doesn't excuse the obvious clangers in the rest of the article.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:28 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Effes wrote:
What a pathetic analysis from Buckenara.
Why I think it was spot on
What did he say that you dont agree with

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McKay took a step backward in 2018? 21 goals in 13 games, 3 goals in 2 games in 2017. Can't call that a step backwards for a developing tall.

Petrevski-Seton - averaged 16.1 disposals compared to 14 in his debut year. Again, you can hardly call that a step backwards for a second year midfielder.

He says Lang took a step backwards, then in the next sentence comments on Lang again in a different context. No mention of Lang's injuries issues either. He seems confused.

M Kennedy - injured in the opening minutes of the season and never really got going. Again, not mentioned as part of the group who had injury riddled years.

Cuningham - also injured for the bulk of the year - not mentioned in the group who had injury riddled years.

"Young players didn't show signs of progress", then he goes on to mention Fisher did show improvement. I've already mentioned McKay, but no mention from him about Charlie Curnow who kicked 34 goals, improving his goal average from 1 to 1.7 and ranking 12th in the AFL for average contested marks.

He has correctly identified issues with some players, but that doesn't excuse the obvious clangers in the rest of the article.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:29 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Effes wrote:
What a pathetic analysis from Buckenara.
Why I think it was spot on
What did he say that you dont agree with

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McKay took a step backward in 2018? 21 goals in 13 games, 3 goals in 2 games in 2017. Can't call that a step backwards for a developing tall.

Petrevski-Seton - averaged 16.1 disposals compared to 14 in his debut year. Again, you can hardly call that a step backwards for a second year midfielder.

He says Lang took a step backwards, then in the next sentence comments on Lang again in a different context. No mention of Lang's injuries issues either. He seems confused.

M Kennedy - injured in the opening minutes of the season and never really got going. Again, not mentioned as part of the group who had injury riddled years.

Cuningham - also injured for the bulk of the year - not mentioned in the group who had injury riddled years.

"Young players didn't show signs of progress", then he goes on to mention Fisher did show improvement. I've already mentioned McKay, but no mention from him about Charlie Curnow who kicked 34 goals, improving his goal average from 1 to 1.7 and ranking 12th in the AFL for average contested marks.

He has correctly identified issues with some players, but that doesn't excuse the obvious clangers in the rest of the article.
He got Mackay wrong but Bolton had to be dragged kicking and screaming to even play him
The rest is pretty spot on

SPS stagnated
Cunningham wasn't exactly setting the world on fire when fit

And by the way in case you forgot we finished last with 2 wins and average 7 goal plus losses

Its always good to be positive but when someone gives a dose of reality dont bag him for it

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:58 pm 
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That analysis was as crap as our season.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:30 pm 
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Buckanara is Hawthorn , we and Hawthorn are fighting over a certain mid from GWS.

Of course he is not going to paint Carlton in a good way

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:52 pm 
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LoB is in the Isaac Smith mould. He needs to watch footage of Smith all summer. And when we play Hawk$ he needs to run with him to learn how it's done.


I don’t think that’s one of LoB’s issues. Kid is highly intelligent, very cool under pressure and makes good decisions. Will be a star for us.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:45 am 
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Rexy wrote:
Gary Buckenara analyses Carlton’s list after the 2018 season

https://outline.com/KLXL57


I thought his analysis was pretty spot on. If we get Shiel - that should be our priority over and above McGovern.

Imagine a midfield of Shiel, Cripps and Murphy. Suddenly you have an A grade midfield.

This would be a competitive midfield against any team. With full complement of defenders back from injury? Competitive.

need a strong ruckman now as a priority. Kreuzer, in my opinion, doesn’t do enough damage forward of centre.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:33 pm 
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Shiel, Setterfield, McGovern and Walsh would be massive.
Looks like Byrne is not coming back.
Casboult may find a new home....
Graham, Kerridge and Lamb to go.

Maybe SPS to hbf for the silky skills coming out of the backline.
Docherty to move onto the midfield like Elliot Yeo.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:31 am 
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"Carlton has left the door open to trading the No.1 draft pick.

The Blues have told GWS they won't hand it over in a trade for Dylan Shiel, but list boss Stephen Silvagni wouldn't entirely rule out a deal in the next nine days.

Silvagni spoke to several media outlets before trade talks kick off at 10am at Marvel Stadium.

"Pick one has probably been traded only once in its history so you'd think it would be unlikely but, having said that, you just don't know what comes across the table. We'd like to keep going to the draft, as we have done the past three years, but you just don't know what may happen," he said on Trade Radio.

Silvagni said the Blues were expecting an answer from Shiel soon.

"We're probably one of 3-4 clubs in the race who have been told (we'll know) in the next 24-48 hours, so I guess we're like the other three clubs, sitting here waiting."

Asked if he was confident Shiel would choose Ikon Park, Silvagni said: "No, a little bit uncertain to be perfectly honest. I know we've put our best foot forward then if he does agree to go with us it's about doing a deal with the Giants, because he is contracted."

Silvagni also provided an update on talks with Adelaide about Mitch McGovern, who has told the Crows he wants to move to Carlton.

"We're in discussions with Adelaide a the minute, I think we're getting reasonably close to something but how that would look will remain between us and the Crows at the minute.

"Look, Mitch is still contracted with the Crows but the good thing is (Adelaide list manager) Justin Reid and I do get on well, obviously he's trying to the best deal for his football club and I'm trying to do the best thing for ours but the good thing at the moment is we're both talking which is a good start."

And he said a deal for Magpie Alex Fasolo could happen in the next 48 hours.

Silvagni said if the Blues miss out on Shiel they didn't have another big target in mind.

Asked if the club had a "Plan B", he said: "Not really.

"We know what we'd be prepared to give up for him and obviously that would be a fairly significant pick somewhere but, having said that, if it doesn't happen you hang on to those picks and you go to the draft, whether it's this year or next year."


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:38 pm 
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Karl Amon from Port on the table. Gotta be a better option than Graham. Would get him for a late pick by the sounds of it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:40 pm 
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https://twitter.com/CarltonFC/status/1049202345932873728


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:15 am 
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SOS is a dud or at least that's what the glass half empty posters are saying.
The only one missing from this year's targets is Shiel. If we land him and maintain pick one I guess that will force a few on here to stfu for a while. Even if we don't, we are in the box seat for MM and Setterfield. All they have to do is play to their potential and 2018 is a success.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:12 pm 
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42 for Setterfield, maximum.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:52 pm 
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DS to bomberland. That settles it. Full steam ahead for Walsh!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:19 pm 
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Welcome Walsh....
What about Cameron Ellis-Yolmen??
Tom Bugg
Mitchell Hibberd
Johnno O’Rourke
Michael Barlow


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