Has everyone forgotten that we had to wait 66 games until anything got any better?

Rubbish. That was for a lost rebuild.

the cringe factor of having to listen to bolton speak in tongues, is just salt in the wounds at this point.

the fact is; nobody at this club knows what they're doing. nobody! womens, mens and reserves are all league worsts and play an appalling style of footy.

Bolton waffles....digresses away from the actual question/answer very easily. Charmed the afl world with those jovial Hawks pressers when filling in for Clarko, and most fell for it....hook, line and sinker.

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"I had to eat"

He's coaching a decimated team that is struggling to compete. What would you like him to say?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Exactly. He is actually showing his class by not saying what we all know. That many years of very poor drafting has left the team miles behind the AFL standard. Micky would’ve wasted no time blaming everyone.

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Everything before the word "but" is horseshit - J Snow

...and what's left is young and undeveloped.

Its a thin list. We can't afford injuries let alone the most injuries in the AFL.

I too get frustrated and confused with what I mistake as a lack of effort...till I watch the replay and realise these kids are up against seasoned hardmen f footy and have little chance of beating them.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

If there was a stat called “effective tackles” I think it would show one of the main reasons we keep being smashed out of the midfield.

I have no doubt our tackling is a result of development with the skill along with the body size and strength. I wish some of the seniors would show more. Im not naming because their stats can be misleading, but alot of our seniors tackles dont stick (ie half hearted) and they can't break them (technique? strength?).

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

The Bombers reached a similar conclusion years ago and then found a weapon to fix the problem in a short time frame.

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“Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile a way and you have their shoes."

I would like him to stop lying for starters.
Carlton is not a good place and it is clear him and his coaching staff are clearly clueless.
Game style is all over the place.
Why have so many players gone backwards?

I watched doco on LA Lakers and how Magic Johnson had a clear role in getting the coach sacked, as the coach in question had a highly regimented game style. Eg zoning in AFL if done by 18 year olds is a dog’s breakfast.

Guess what? The next coach they got in revolutionised the Lakers, freeing them.

Just get the AFL to do an audit. One extra draft pick -pick 18 - whoopy do dah!- isn’t going to change anything.

Bolts hasn’t played AFL level. Is this a pre-requisite for success? If we judge it on history, perhaps so. Maybe Bolts is s true revolutionary in terms of getting coaches outside AFL system & it will all work out ok. I can’t see much evidence of that though.

The best coaches in the NFL eg Bill Bellichick didn’t play at the top level. Maybe tactical games like American football are more suited to recruiting outside the frame. Either way, I want an external audit.

How many other teams over the last 100 years employee so many coaches without AFL experience? Brisbane with their coach. Any others?

you just can't compare afl to other games, as far as non-playing coaches being successful.

afl is a very insular boys club. they don't welcome outsiders in the way other sports like nfl & nba will. plus with both those sports, they have a huge talent pool to work from with the college leagues. what is there? 225 college who play nba & nfl?

it's an apples and oranges comparison.

How would you know if it's a good place? Perhaps the players understand they are decimated by injuries but they can see the future the youngsters will provide. Any training I've seen the players are upbeat and enjoying themselves. Wouldn't Bolton have a better idea than you?

Game Style. What's all over the place? Give us some examples. Apart from filling holes everywhere, I don't know what you expect. On one hand he's being accused of being all over the place. Other posts claim he isn't changing it up enough.

Players going backwards. Has Cripps gone backwards? Charlie Curnow? Zac Fisher? SPS hasn't improved but he hasn't gone backwards either. Same with McKay. Most others are injured.
Weitering has struggled but lots of youngsters are inconsistent. Look at Ryan Burton. Touted as unlucky to not win the RS last year and struggling to get a game. He's playing under a triple premiership coach. The improvement of young players isn't linear.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Stop talking sense BV. No place for that here.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

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The reason for our current problems started way before Silvagni and Bolton arrived.

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In WADA we trust

FWIW I thought Bolton spoke very well in the presser after the game Friday night. Faced with similar, or even lesser, circumstances I've seen a lot of coaches crack sooky or grumpy. I thought he held it together well. There were no excuses although we had many, for example it was one of the worst efforts against us by the umps I can remember for quite awhile, we lost our only ruckmen early in first ... etc.

He acknowledged that some of the players were tired but that effort on game day was not negotiable. He talked about the basic skill errors that cost us dearly and reiterated that they will continue to work hard on this. He conceded that he told the players to share the ball more in an attempt to free things up, but with hindsight he felt that they had over done it and were overusing the ball. A coach admitting a tactical error.

And all this from a new coach with a hostile media going all out to try and bait him and stir up controversy. (The whole commentary was extremely pro St.Kilda I thought).

I'd be interested to hear from his critics here just what they think he should be saying?

Malthouse was more interested in egotistical battles with journo's than communicating to the Carlton fans.

Bolton is the opposite.

no no Bolts is doing nothing right...I am even disgusted by the way he ties his shoelaces...and don't get me started on his birthday cakes and bushfire strategies.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Have only been able to bring myself to watch the after match presser today.

Full credit to Bolts for being able to be so composed and articulate in these circumstances.

I couldn’t be further depressed with how dire things are. God knows how tough it is for him. As I’ve said before, I truly feel for him. He’s the visual poster boy for the sins of our past.

If the club isn’t doing absolutely everything it can to support him and give him an opportunity to build cohesion and continuity then we may as well hand in the keys.

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We are on our way back...

You'll know he's really in trouble if he cops it for sitting down on the boundary and eating lolly snakes, like Ratten

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I hope Essendon* folds.