on the grounds that Gresham actually requested his eyes be gouged out so he wouldn't have to keep watching Carlton play?

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#DonTheStash

I thought this thread was going to be about how other teams have been treating Carlton players with contempt for years, especially the other bottom four teams. Even first year players get up in Murphy’s face confident that he and his teammates will meekly take it.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

The vision I saw, his hands didn't appear to be near his eyes. Perhaps there is better vision which may implicate him. Whatever, it's a stupid act sticking your fingers in someones face.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Could be worse, at least we don't have John Hopoate on our list.

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

We don't need a new thread to tell us that.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY