Brendon Bolton - Carlton coach 2015-2019

smithy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:58 pm **Posts:** 1636

Blue Vain wrote:

smithy wrote:

And then there is the disaster of what happens when we don't have the ball, our defensive zone is good for a laugh and I fail to see how that that is put down to injuries. It isn't going to magically sort itself out when Docherty and Williamson come back.

Really? Docherty, Williamson, Plowman, Ciaran Byrne, Alex Silvagni or even Weitering?
You don't think they'll be better equipped as defenders than Rowe, Lamb, Thomas, Jack Silvagni, Shaw who have probably played a total of 10 games in defence for us before this season. Coaches like Clarkson talk about lack of cohesion when one of 2 defenders are missing. What chance do our team have?

Yeah I think you are right they are better equipped for sure, that's what is frustrating I can't work out just who is closer to the truth, and to what extent it is coaching/personnel.
The truth may be somewhere in the middle, which still doesn't bode well for Bolt's.

smithy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:58 pm **Posts:** 1636

Rexy wrote:

less time inside in the classroom

more time on the track with repetitive skills work and basic fundamentals of one on one footy

in essence, more simplicity for the remainder of the year

Spot on. When things break down go back to basics. It holds true in everything.

smithy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:58 pm **Posts:** 1636

Seeing as how this year is a write off, why not for one week not allow the players to go any wider than 10 meters off the line of the square.
Only have 2 or 3 running wide as a distraction, not to be used. And to run/run/run when in possession. Preferably forward; and in waves of 3/4. And not to hold the ball up for more than 3 seconds.
Much easier to structure up behind than having half the team caught out of position stuck too wide when we commit a skill error or finally kick to a 3 on 5 disadvantage
Just see what happens. There is nothing to lose. At least make positive errors. Take the game on mindset. We are too easy to play against, entirely predictable.
The best thing that could happen to us would be for the AFL to bring in the anti-congestion rule. It would actually force us to keep numbers in front of ball, because no plan will work if you have no players forward of the ball or 1 against 4.

aramari · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:35 pm

WOW wrote:

Although injuries have had an impact, I don't think it explains how bad we have been this year.

There is no semblance of decent ball movement. I can't recall too many passages of play where we looked like a team on the rise. In fact I haven't seen much of this over the last 3 years. Way too much stop kick football. It may keep you competitive but is not conducive to good player development and extracting talent from a team.

Give Bolts another year with a serious off season review of our football department including finding a replacement for McKay and changes to support staff such as Barker. Not sure what else you can do st this stage.

Also, if I hear the words 'green shoots' again I will spew. Bolts needs to move on from that rubbish.

We want to be defined by pressure. We want to be defined by pressure. We want to be defined by pressure. We want to be defined by pressure. :screwy:

The Duke · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:01 pm

Simple question - If Bolts walked out of the club tomorrow, would any club offer him the position of head coach?

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7348

Maybe never ever...

rhys87 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:48 pm **Posts:** 1392

smithy wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

smithy wrote:

And then there is the disaster of what happens when we don't have the ball, our defensive zone is good for a laugh and I fail to see how that that is put down to injuries. It isn't going to magically sort itself out when Docherty and Williamson come back.

Really? Docherty, Williamson, Plowman, Ciaran Byrne, Alex Silvagni or even Weitering?
You don't think they'll be better equipped as defenders than Rowe, Lamb, Thomas, Jack Silvagni, Shaw who have probably played a total of 10 games in defence for us before this season. Coaches like Clarkson talk about lack of cohesion when one of 2 defenders are missing. What chance do our team have?

Yeah I think you are right they are better equipped for sure, that's what is frustrating I can't work out just who is closer to the truth, and to what extent it is coaching/personnel.
The truth may be somewhere in the middle, which still doesn't bode well for Bolt's.

Yep, somewhere in the middle.

Anyone who was at the game last tonight can not say it is all personnel. The setups and predictability which StKilda pulled apart was laughable. For a defensive game style we lacked numbers on the defensive side of the pack multiple times which cost us easy goals. That is coaching.
Yes we lost our ruckman, but setup differently at quarter time, think on the fly.

gerry atric · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am **Posts:** 2125

The Duke wrote:

Simple question - If Bolts walked out of the club tomorrow, would any club offer him the position of head coach?

How many head coach jobs are available, how many other coaches would get an offer? Sacked coaches rarely get another shot. So if any of the current coaches got sacked they almost certainly wouldn't get a gig. Anyway he hasn't been sacked yet and I don't think he should be. If we're as bad next year he will be in strife but kneejerk reactions now will perpetuate Carlton failure and belief that a coach is a saviour.

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Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18078

rhys87 wrote:

Yes we lost our ruckman, but setup differently at quarter time, think on the fly.

Suggestions?

rhys87 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:48 pm **Posts:** 1392

Blue Vain wrote:

rhys87 wrote:

Yes we lost our ruckman, but setup differently at quarter time, think on the fly.

Suggestions?

Know their ruckman will dominate, so setup based on that around stoppages. Someone on the central side in their 50 would have been handy on more than one occasion.
Put Jones/Rowe in the ruck since they have some more experience doing it than Curnow, Cripps, McKay.

I'm not saying sack him but our performance in the coaches box at the moment isn't helping.

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8229

The Duke wrote:

Simple question - If Bolts walked out of the club tomorrow, would any club offer him the position of head coach?

Doubt it. We've on 2 from our last 26 games. That's putrid! Personal might be young but even for injuries it's alot better than that.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18078

rhys87 wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

rhys87 wrote:

Yes we lost our ruckman, but setup differently at quarter time, think on the fly.

Suggestions?

Know their ruckman will dominate, so setup based on that around stoppages. Someone on the central side in their 50 would have been handy on more than one occasion.
Put Jones/Rowe in the ruck since they have some more experience doing it than Curnow, Cripps, McKay.

I'm not saying sack him but our performance in the coaches box at the moment isn't helping.

Jones did go in the ruck.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7348

eventually. but only after we inexplicably put curnow, cripps and mcKay in the ruck beforehand.

imagine if one of those 3 did an acl in a ruck contest.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18078

McKay was always going to play relieving ruck. Thats why he was selected.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:00 pm

The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
2019
Win one of the first 3 games
Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

Fail to meet any its on your bike back to Tassie

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camel · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:19 pm

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

jim wrote:

Whatever one can say about our side, it's alot better than one win and 65 & 64pts defeats by two of the bottom sides.

Bolts isn't the man unfortunately.

no we're not better than that. at least half a team not at afl standard.

And roughly the same number are out injured. Coincidence?

camel · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:27 pm

Effes wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

With regards to the injuries the way I look at it is like this.
It's your birthday and the family has bought you the delicious looking cake.
You know that this cake is going to be the best tasting cake out.
However someone has put 44 candles on it and you have to blow these candles out.
But they are those trick candles and everytime you blow one out anothet re ignites.
You really want this cake but you simply cannot blow these candles out.
Bit like our playing group every time you think someone will return you are going to get your cake.
However whilst you are putting all your efforts to blowing out these candles.
There is a raging bushfire coming down the valley and its about to burn the whole housr down cake and all

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Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.

Sidefx · **Joined:** Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm **Posts:** 6838

rhys87 wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

rhys87 wrote:

Yes we lost our ruckman, but setup differently at quarter time, think on the fly.

Suggestions?

Know their ruckman will dominate, so setup based on that around stoppages. Someone on the central side in their 50 would have been handy on more than one occasion.
Put Jones/Rowe in the ruck since they have some more experience doing it than Curnow, Cripps, McKay.

I'm not saying sack him but our performance in the coaches box at the moment isn't helping.

And you actually think that our already undermanned midfield and non-existent back line would've still had a chance with your set up? Please!

The thing everyone keeps forgetting is that Kruezer is not only a ruck for us but he is also another midfielder and like a lot of teams (but not all) when you lose your #1 ruck your midfield gets dominated. Then you couple that without pretty much all of your starting 22 back line injured (Marchbank may as well be injured he is so underdone)........well, you get what you've been seeing.

99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3562

Sydney Blue wrote:

With regards to the injuries the way I look at it is like this.
It's your birthday and the family has bought you the delicious looking cake.
You know that this cake is going to be the best tasting cake out.
However someone has put 44 candles on it and you have to blow these candles out.
But they are those trick candles and everytime you blow one out anothet re ignites.
You really want this cake but you simply cannot blow these candles out.
Bit like our playing group every time you think someone will return you are going to get your cake.
However whilst you are putting all your efforts to blowing out these candles.
There is a raging bushfire coming down the valley and its about to burn the whole housr down cake and all

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Are firemen paid enough to come to your rescue?
Or are they overpaid and underworked leeches on society like teachers and paramedics?
#thenightstalker
PS. Stop blowing hot air onto the candles like you do on this site. You're fuelling the damn thing

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