They'd just tell us no one wants to see a strong Carlton.

Yes it is a sad state of affairs. The job at hand is too difficult despite MLG, Bolts, SOS best intentions.

The Lions are arguably slightly ahead of where we are in the rebuild and they to are winless - at least Fagan called it as it is: “it’s hard to improve quickly in this game. I understand the questions but go study the teams that have tried to rebuild and see how long it takes”

Get the AFL in to assist with the reset. What do we have to lose?

I will be watching with interest at the leg up in the media from our footy manager, president etc as Bolts said he cannot do it on his own!

Yep, Murphy was awful last night

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I thought it was his best game in a while.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

If it is universal that it is almost impossible to rebuild from ground up
Why would you do it.
6 to 8 years plus with absolutely no assurance that it will work.


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What we need to remember is that we are essentially GWS several years behind.

It took them until their 4th year to get 11 victories.

Their first 3 years were 2, 1, 6 victories.

They didn’t have much of a core senior group either. Their senior group included Callan Ward, Phil Davis, Tom Scully who were only about 3-4years older than the draftees. They had elder statesmen in Luke Power, Chad Cornes.

I think it’s a year of pain but look at GWS the last couple of years.

It’s typical Carlton impatience. 66 game rebuild should probably be 88 games. Our list balance is still a bit askew and I think it will be next year before we really move forward.

I think that’s what Fagan and the industry are essentially saying. A complete rebuild will essentially be a 4-5 year proposition.

It’s just harder for us because we have been so poor for so long and used to sustained success in the 70s, 80’s and 90’s.

That said, some of the effort on Saturday night was not acceptable. Confidence is dropping off quickly.

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It's become harder to rebuild because the Priority pick for teams that won less than 5 games was removed. Not saying that's the be all and end all, but it definitely helps.

Very few, if any, have stripped it back like Carlton and Brisbane have and see marked improvement. Melbourne have even struggled, albeit slowly, have come out of the mire.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

They tipped this.

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It's only round 4.

We have to have plan B when they tag Cripps.

Kreuzer will get over the groin.
Lobbe will get over his quad.
Hope Kennedy's ankle improves.
And with that his form.

Lang replaced Gibbs. He's still out.

Marchbank is a key player: b+ going onto A grade.
He will be back.

Williamson is a forgotten man such his injury.
Byrno in and out with injury.

There's more to our on field situation than Docherty and Gibbs.

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I think the biggest thing was the introduction of free agency. It has not worked how the AFL said it would. The top clubs are just topping up with the good players from the bottom clubs.
Players only seem to want to go to certain clubs and we are not one of them.

Wangers there are now 18 teams no more 12, 14, 16 or 18 teams. More teams and less to go around. As we all know it’s a different world. All teams are looking for the edge. There’s no guarantees
StK have rebuilt and are going through growing pains as are the dees l suppose there’s no other choice for us than to see out the reset but let’s leverage off the AFL. They are fully aware how difficult and how long it takes to extricate out of the mire.
What we don’t have is a solid core of 6-8 seasoned hard bodied campaigners to assist the young dudes. Dow 4 games in as light as a feather throw in LOB who played his first. Even SPS and Fisher are only 25 games in and the pressure those boys are feeling is unfair.

I’ll be there as no doubt you will be next week supporting the baggers through thick and thin!

Be there next week, I will.

Reality is if the AFL are genuinely going to assist us, it's to award us a PP if we finish less than 5 wins. I expect it won't happen, in any case. We have to be astute at recruitment, play the system by hiding players in the other leagues like all the other clubs have done.

Find the mature age big bodied midfielders like Tim Kelly, the speed machines to ignite excitement into the team, and the tough players who play with a chip on their shoulder at every contest.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

I don't want another @#$%&! PP. I want our current list of players to work their arses off, or we'll just have more top talent caught in the spiral being sucked down the dunny!!!

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Observations:

1. Gibbs has been a much bigger loss that people are willing to admit.

2. We have an impotent mid-field.

3. No one is capable of helping Cripps.

4. We have no spread and run on the outside.

5. We have no plan B or C.

6. Decision Making is horrendous.

7. I am still hopeful Bolton will bring this all together ... but from the outside it looks like he has lost the players.

8. We should never have got rid of Ratten.

9. Donald Trump is unhinged.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

EFA

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I hope Essendon* folds.

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Point 2 re-edited for accuracy

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Wasn't a good look having him fly home separately to the rest of the team (I assume due to being a local, but was maybe a few hours less?)

I'd like to know why they stuck with Bruce as defensive line coach after Docherty went down. Take your two best playmakers out, and you're left largely with a group mostly under 50 games experience each. Unfair to both the new bloke at the club and the backline group to try and make do with each other, despite a lack of unfamiliarity. Surely it would have been prudent to give an incumbent assistant the role for the year (Barker for arguments sake) and review later in the year?

Now left with two senior assistants clearly hunting a senior coaching position elsewhere given far too much leeway to do what they've had success with elsewhere, and a not-so-senior coach without the necessary tenure or club backing to do as his job suggests.

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