R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion

smithy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:58 pm **Posts:** 1636

Heavs wrote:

I thought Zac and Samo were pretty good.

Agree, they are staying in the game for longer periods. Polson has the tools and requires an extended run at it. Lamb and Thomas would not get a game with any other team. Not sure what O'Shea and Mullet bring; we have enough of those types, too many soft slowish hbf types.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:34 pm

The comment by Sydney Blue suggesting that at 30 years of age our Capatin shoul be the cream is making excuses for a captain who won't chase and pressure and tackle.

Captains lead by example. Hence the performance of the rest.

I loved Murphy up till today in the hope he would bring his 2011 form.
Now I'm done with his hopeless effort. No heart.

He is the weakest captain we have had since my first game in 1968.

Look forward to his retirement.
He's a downhill skier. A receiver.
Doesn't get his hands dirty.

Did he get 30, 25, 20 possessions?
Whatever it was he did nothing with them.
...and he is suppose to have elite delivery.
What was his efficiency by foot and hand?

bondiblue · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:36 pm

smithy wrote:

Heavs wrote:

I thought Zac and Samo were pretty good.

Agree, they are staying in the game for longer periods. Polson has the tools and requires an extended run at it. Lamb and Thomas would not get a game with any other team. Not sure what O'Shea and Mullet bring; we have enough of those types, too many soft slowish hbf types.

Mullet has a deadly peg.
That's right, his peg was dead.

Heavs · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:36 pm

Murphy - 121 dreamteam/77 supercoach. Great chasing of shank kicks though. Inspiring.

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

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robertbb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:06 pm **Posts:** 9354

Noonamah Blue wrote:

smithy wrote:

Green shoots....yeah like f###, how about some mental toughness.

Green Shots won’t thrive till we get rid of the weeds.

trublu · **Joined:** Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:12 am **Posts:** 915

Murphy has checked out. He should have been traded ahead of Gibbs.

I don’t blame him. Im not sure how you can keep yourself motivated when he knows it’s a bottom 4 list and going no where in a hurry

bondiblue · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:41 pm

trublu wrote:

Jonosc wrote:

trublu wrote:

Shame on all of you who were happy with lasts weeks performance and are happy with mediocre performances.

Watch our games with both eyes open and you’ll see what I’m seeing.

So give us the answers...

The first warning sign came when Bolton deviated from his defensive game plan to please the media and co who called us the boring blues. For me, we are not ready nor have enough quality players on the list to play a more offensive style of play. We lack, lack good decisions makers and we have porky skilled bolsters especially by foot.

By the looks of it today, our players looked lost dazed and confused out there and that’s because of the change of game plan that didn’t need to be changed just yet

Recruiting has been our problem. I don’t think SOS has done a good a job as most say to be honest. He has spent many tickets on 190cm + players when pace has been a problem for us for a long time.
How do you recruit a player like Mullet who’s been givemt the boot from a poor side.

Our midfield is poor. The depth in our midfield is poorer and we are a one pace.

My solution would be look at poaching a decenct recruiterto start with.

Bolton didn't drop the handball passes, the kicks to opposition, the lack of run.

Stop making excuses for the players.

Jones didn't man up.
Murphy failed to run.
Muppet didn't kick straight.
Lamb stopped our momentum with a shot in front.

Fumbles
Dropped marks
Broken tackles

All dumb stuff the coach can't control.

Casboult isn't a ruckman.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:42 pm

Pros

Better effort than last years game against Port

smithy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:58 pm **Posts:** 1636

Almost half of our tackles came from 4 players Curnow Cripps Fisher and Polson.... Polson had 6 tackles from 73% game time of which not more than half would have been midfield minutes. That is why he should get an extended run.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:44 pm

bondiblue wrote:

The comment by Sydney Blue suggesting that at 30 years of age our Capatin shoul be the cream is making excuses for a captain who won't chase and pressure and tackle.

Captains lead by example. Hence the performance of the rest.

I loved Murphy up till today in the hope he would bring his 2011 form.
Now I'm done with his hopeless effort. No heart.

He is the weakest captain we have had since my first game in 1968.

Look forward to his retirement.
He's a downhill skier. A receiver.
Doesn't get his hands dirty.

Did he get 30, 25, 20 possessions?
Whatever it was he did nothing with them.
...and he is suppose to have elite delivery.
What was his efficiency by foot and hand?

30 disposals and easily in our best .
Murphy is not the issue it is the coaching they are getting.
We have talent on this list and just like Waite Betts Kennedy etc before hand we are not using that talent and getting the best out of them.
I have been saying it for years that they don't know how to win.
You have to teach them to win.
Poor decisions turn overs dropped marks are a result of a losing mentality.
Remember Bondi it is not about wins and losses so they keep telling us.
They must be told winning is the only option. Sides selected to win not develop. Development will come from winning

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Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:45 pm

Can't handle the ball cleanly.
Can't handball cleanly.
Can't kick a pass that doesn't bounce first.
Can't stick a tackle.

Our defensive game has disintegrated and we still have no decent forward setup.

Very disappointed with the apparent lack of effort they put in and I agree we should have picked another tall when Kreuzer went down. We have three rucks on the list and none of them is fit to play.

I think they thought this would be an easy win. I thought we would have won going away had we brought last week's game to the stadium.

Most of our possessions were under pressure and most of theirs weren't. I think that sums it up for me.

dannyboy · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:46 pm

I tipped GC

reasons - they have good talent and now have a good coach

we will still struggle to kick goals - sometimes it will work but not all time.

No Kruise/No Kennedy was going to hurt us. Especially no backup ruckman (damn!)

We won plenty of the ball but we still lack a forward line 0apart from Curnow).

Time to play big Harry and just let him get used to it

I am thrilled Trublu will now be able to bag all and sundry.

We need Kennedy Lang and Pickett

Schumacher to get a run next weeek?

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

Make no mistake, we played a very very good football side today.

WOW · **Joined:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 pm **Posts:** 2057

I wasn't convinced about last weeks performance

Today proved me right

We cannot seem to shake this loser mentality

We have had so many chances with early draft picks but the mediocrity continues

Until we rid the club of this 17 year malaise, we will continue losing

I think the club needs to start lifting expectations as we can't continue to rely on "the process"

If we do, another spoon awaits us

smithy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:58 pm **Posts:** 1636

bondiblue wrote:

smithy wrote:

Heavs wrote:

I thought Zac and Samo were pretty good.

Agree, they are staying in the game for longer periods. Polson has the tools and requires an extended run at it. Lamb and Thomas would not get a game with any other team. Not sure what O'Shea and Mullet bring; we have enough of those types, too many soft slowish hbf types.

Mullet has a deadly peg.
That's right, his peg was dead.

diesel_85 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:54 pm **Posts:** 1123

Putrid. Simply putrid.
After so many years of rubbish i can handle losing. I can't handle zero effort. Today was a chance to put an early stamp on 2018. Looks like 4-6 wins yet again. This is tiring

trublu · **Joined:** Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:12 am **Posts:** 915

bondiblue wrote:

trublu wrote:

Jonosc wrote:

trublu wrote:

Shame on all of you who were happy with lasts weeks performance and are happy with mediocre performances.

Watch our games with both eyes open and you’ll see what I’m seeing.

So give us the answers...

The first warning sign came when Bolton deviated from his defensive game plan to please the media and co who called us the boring blues. For me, we are not ready nor have enough quality players on the list to play a more offensive style of play. We lack, lack good decisions makers and we have porky skilled bolsters especially by foot.

By the looks of it today, our players looked lost dazed and confused out there and that’s because of the change of game plan that didn’t need to be changed just yet

Recruiting has been our problem. I don’t think SOS has done a good a job as most say to be honest. He has spent many tickets on 190cm + players when pace has been a problem for us for a long time.
How do you recruit a player like Mullet who’s been givemt the boot from a poor side.

Our midfield is poor. The depth in our midfield is poorer and we are a one pace.

My solution would be look at poaching a decenct recruiterto start with.

Bolton didn't drop the handball passes, the kicks to opposition, the lack of run.

Stop making excuses for the players.

Jones didn't man up.
Murphy failed to run.
Muppet didn't kick straight.
Lamb stopped our momentum with a shot in front.

Fumbles
Dropped marks
Broken tackles

All dumb stuff the coach can't control.

Casboult isn't a ruckman.

Why didnt the players perform today? Is it because Bolts has deviated from his game plan to early into our development.

The players looked confused or there. They didn’t look confident. Yes we had some structural problems with having a few key players missing through injury but this team has lost its confidence and it’s ability to defend.

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:51 pm

Through form and injury, from our best 22 were missing:
Kreuzer, Jack, Lang, Kennedy, Docherty, Pickett.
Is it any wonder we got pummelled today.
Game was lost at the selection table.

Blue Boys · **Joined:** Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:35 pm **Posts:** 1234

Bolts had a shocking day, no doubt about it. Both tactics and intensity were way off.

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