bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
There was no need for the cheap shot in the first place. He wasn't up to it. Some posters were hoping for the clubs sake he could come on but he didn't.
Your response to him being delisted was to have a go at the "deluded fans" who wanted to see him succeed.
I don't understand the approach. He's gone. He obviously wasn't in their plans. IMO we should wish all departing players good luck and look to the future IMO.
I fail to see the need for comments like yours. It was petty and provocative. And then when someone bites back you want to play the victim.
I feel totally dudded by KJ.
I was hoping he'd make it, right up to the very end, because I witnessed his demolition of Waite in Sydney, and he looked like a KP of the future to me at 19yo.
I was genuinely optimistic when we got him.
The reasons he didn't make it at Carlton will come out in the wash.
All we have to go by now is rumours that he lacked motivation and drive, and he liked to get on the sauce on weekends.
Wealso know the MC wouldn't pick him ahead of others for reasons not made public.
It seems to me the rumours could be close to the mark.
All he wanted was to get to Melbourne.
Carlton was the vehicle to do so whilst fleecing us a cool $1M...and he didn't have to try.
It isn't about deluded Carlton fans as we are innocent believers.
The issue is how a 20yo could pull the wool over our eyes when the experienced Malthouse the motivator was in charge.
This is where the KJ handling was wrong (In my ill informed and ignorant opinion)
There was no visible motivation to reform, to be given an opportunity to see how things could turn out if he applied himself more. What would have been wrong to 'shock' him with a selection or two and give him the stage. It's not as though he is the first immature 22 yo with some talent. He won't be the last
From what people have said, he virtually knew back in May that he was no chance. The fact that his ressie form (fwd and back) was as satisfactory as it was probably tells me he more engaged than maybe he was given credit for. No redemption, no chances for rehabilitation and little extrinsic motivation to succeed
I hope he gets a second chance somewhere and plays a ripping game against us.
I'm only annoyed at the pig headed-ness of the MC. I don't know whether he had the talent to succeed at senior level and you know what...neither does anybody else...1 game over 2 seasons had nothing to do with talent. If that's the case, explore other ways to turn that switch on at AFL level. If the exploration doesn't bear fruit, then you can move on and sleep easily knowing you exhausted all avenues
I feel terrible about KJ and my post.
I think you may be correct about the pig headedness of the MC.
I just found out some interesting facts about KJ. As a result I find my post very disturbing.
I found out he did commit 100% to the year from the outset in 2017.
Busted a gut. Didn't drink. Played the best he could despite seeing the writing on the wall.
Perhaps he had something to do with the problem in his first 2 years, but if he did turn things around, as Ive been informed, he should've been given every chance to succeed when he had committed himself to make his time at Carlton a success.
I believed there was something in those rumours. There may have been in his 1st and 2nd year.
The clear message from this is the expectation from all Carlton players is 100% dedication from the moment you walk through the door.
I wish I didn't know what transpired. Such a waste of talent. Its done now.
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