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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:57 pm 
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Bob Chitty

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Blues Clues wrote:
Flying back from overseas right now and just hooked up to internet.

Predictable result given outs we had.

So, did Doch spend more time in the middle in the absence of Crippa?

Can't wait to see Willo back.


Started there. Injuries to ASOS, Buckley and Byrne sent him back into defence before the end of the first half.

Willo AND Marchbank both being missed. Hope McCreadie comes back next week also.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:00 pm 
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Our decision making going forward is monumentally bad.

Maybe its leftovers from the Madhouse era!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:01 pm 
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ASOS deserves to be in the pro category. Was good before injury struck.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:01 pm 
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Fact is, we lost again. Against a team that has been putrid for about 2 months, yet the excuses keep getting made! Argue as much as you like, we are a 50% decent football team, the other half is barely recognisable as AFL level, and there is no evidence to suggest that will improve anytime soon!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:03 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
Our decision making going forward is monumentally bad.

Maybe its leftovers from the Madhouse era!


He's been gone for 2 years, yet you're still blaming him for decision making? Blame him for personnel losses as much as you like, but 2 years is enough time to teach decision making, structure etc!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:04 pm 
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Alex Silvagni is probably our most important player. Makes every hit as hard as possible.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:08 pm 
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Alex Silvagni is probably our most important player. Makes every hit as hard as possible.


And every tackle of his sticks. Half our tackles get slipped completely or at a minimum they get an effective handball away during our tackle. Partly due to small/young bodies. Nothing another solid preseason can't fix if they have the right dedication.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:09 pm 
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BlueDW wrote:
Fact is, we lost again. Against a team that has been putrid for about 2 months, yet the excuses keep getting made! Argue as much as you like, we are a 50% decent football team, the other half is barely recognisable as AFL level, and there is no evidence to suggest that will improve anytime soon!


we started rebuilding 38 games ago. it's frustrating but what were you expecting exactly?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:12 pm 
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I know our depth is being tested at the moment, but I thought that was a pretty horrid performance. Only better than the PA smashing.

Pros:
Got off to a good start again.
Kerridge.
Charlie.
Wright.
Boekhorst was okay.

Cons:
Again we butchered our good start by ridiculous defensive mistakes to let the opposition back into it.
Buckley was awful. Played like he knew his career was on the line. And completely froze up.
Weitering's been decent the last 2 weeks. But he's clearly down on confidence. Last year, he seemed to never make a dumb choice. This year there seems to be a couple of howlers every week.
What is it with Casboult's goalkicking in last quarters? Whatever slim chance we had was effectively torpedoed by his miss from the goalsquare.
SOJ was thrashed by a 1st gamer today.
Graham's ball use was horrible.
Any chance the umps might demand the Bulldogs handball rather than throw it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:21 pm 
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Very disappointing effor todayi thought. Once again our usual crimes were not manning up, not sticking tackles and making poor disposal decisions let alone the shocking delivery our forwards got, not that they appeared to be leading for the ball. I didn't expect to win this game after the performances we have put up recently but it seemed like so many people weren't even trying. We seem to have an over-reliance on somem of our more senior players with, other ones who have been so hyped up just not performing consistently.

I haven't written the season off as a totat disaster yet, but it certainly doesn't seem to be showing the same promise that it was when we had our winning streak and if we play collingwood let alone the drug cheats Essendon* then i have no confidence that we can beat either one.


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Look, between them, Graham and Kerridge had 8 inside 50s. That is a massive problem for us.

Beveridge wouldn't have been the slightest bit worried about either of them with ball in hand.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:24 pm 
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Crippa wrote:
verbs wrote:
Alex Silvagni is probably our most important player. Makes every hit as hard as possible.


And every tackle of his sticks. Half our tackles get slipped completely or at a minimum they get an effective handball away during our tackle. Partly due to small/young bodies. Nothing another solid preseason can't fix if they have the right dedication.


Agree.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Crippa wrote:
verbs wrote:
Half our tackles get slipped completely or at a minimum they get an effective handball away during our tackle.


Or they simply throw the ball (or drop it), and the umps call play on.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Mots87 wrote:
Leadership is a massive concern.

Time for some changes next year.


Personally I always thought Kade Simpson should have been made captain. Murphy is a very good player but i just don't think he has the type of dominant personality to be an onfield general like some captains of other teams, which even though i admire very l ittle else about them, i respect that part of their game.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:28 pm 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Reckon SOS will have a real easy job cleaning out our list.
Also, had enough of Levi. If he wants to leave to chase the $$$, see ya.
Play McKay and or Kerr for the rest of the year. Got nothing to lose.
They may not deserve a spot in the seniors on current VFL form, but neither did Anyone else.


I thought Casboult had turned his form around with the coaching he got from Rocca but he is still patchy, in both kicking and marking. Of course it hasn't helped that the delivery into the forward line has been abysmal.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:32 pm 
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For those who think Graham and Kerridge hurt us (includes me sometimes although I though Kegga was good today) take a look at their stats compared to Murphy. I'd never drop Murph in a million years but his output is really poor. The other two have better stats in almost every category.

GRAHAM
65% efficiency
15 efficient disposals
10 contested possessions
6 clearances
6 inside 50's
1 goal
2 goal assists
4 score involvements
4 tackles
3 clangers

KERRIDGE
76% efficiency
23 efficient disposals
12 contested
3 clearances
2 inside 50's
1 point
1 goal assist
4 score involvements
2 tackles
5 clangers

MURPHY
62% efficiency
17 effective
7 contested
1 clearance
3 inside 50's
0 points
1 goal assist
4 score involvements
4 tackles
5 clangers


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:36 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Crippa wrote:
verbs wrote:
Half our tackles get slipped completely or at a minimum they get an effective handball away during our tackle.


Or they simply throw the ball (or drop it), and the umps call play on.


Yeah saw a lot of that too. They have adapted to the way the umps have called the game this year tho so that's almost a compliment to them rather than a complaint.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:37 pm 
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Bluesman44 wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Reckon SOS will have a real easy job cleaning out our list.
Also, had enough of Levi. If he wants to leave to chase the $$$, see ya.
Play McKay and or Kerr for the rest of the year. Got nothing to lose.
They may not deserve a spot in the seniors on current VFL form, but neither did Anyone else.


I thought Casboult had turned his form around with the coaching he got from Rocca but he is still patchy, in both kicking and marking. Of course it hasn't helped that the delivery into the forward line has been abysmal.


24.14 isn't patchy. It's probably team leading efficiency. But that's a guess. I didn't check.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Let's hope there is some sound reasoning in Bolton's revamp of our game style

Hopefully short term pain for long term gain

Not scoring 100 points in a game for 27 games is becoming a bit concerning

Also boring as hell to watch


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:42 pm 
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Can't fault the effort, but oh gawd our kicking skills kill us, turn over city again. Week after week we can't kick a reasonable score. We can't take a trick with injuries, no excuse though. Did anyone else expect Levi to miss that shot? Watching the NB's yesterday there's not much there either.


Honestly didn't expect it for a second. He has kicked 24.14 for the season which is great. He's more reliable than great players like Simpson (3.3) and Kruzer (9.10). Even a ripper like Gibbs who gets plenty of set shots for a midfielder has a poor conversion rate (14.10) so nah I didn't expect the big fella to miss it. Feel sorry for him as it takes the shine of a good effort from him again and a great first quarter set shot.

We showed in the first quarter what people like Bolt and Charlie can do if we move the ball quickly and cleanly but our disposals through the middle didn't give our forwards much of chance for big patches. Charlie and Bolt had to go up the ground to make the play and move the ball forward for people like Wright to capitalise on.


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