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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:28 am 
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Still scratching my head how Rance got a free for running into Jack while he was taking a mark...


And the arm chop on the wing five or so minutes earlier that went unpaid.

Jack was well and truly ripped in that final qtr.


Arm chop? Jack was punched in the head! Of course no free....


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Carlton were crap. Richmond were slightly less crap. Umpiring was slightly more crap.

Ordinary game on every level

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:55 am 
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Pros:
Liam Jones again.
Docherty (especially in light of how sore he was supposed to be).
Kreuzer. I love how he's finally learnt to take overhead marks.
Casboult and Charlie. Much better with their set shots.
I thought it was an encouraging midfield performance from Graham.

Cons:

Thought the scoreboard flattered us.
I'm with the coach, far too many broken tackles.
Not enough contributors.
Grimes, Rance and Wright staging for frees.
Brian Taylor's inability to call the correct names.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:18 am 
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The through the hands and shit himself miss from Pickett in the last quarter after our best run of play for the day and two goal turnaround that resulted was awful
However I'm inclined to give Pickett a little leeway despite a very poor game today because clearly he has something. Just don't see anything in Boeky Smedts or Graham.
Richmond left the door wide open for us today and a decent side without the passengers above would have run over them


Agree. Pickett put himself into multiple good positions/situation but unfortunately came up short each time. Needs to keep his feet more often and needs to hold a few tackles that slipped. He had a bad game without doubt but I see something in him. Sadly for Smedts and Graham they were both very poor. Graham got his hands on the ball but I can't recall a single damaging use. He was responsible for Casboult's last goal. He attacked the contest and got the footy out for a pass to Casboult. I remember thinkig at the imt it was a courageous act. Even when he didn't turn it over he was ineffectual with it and also let a few tackles slip.

The 3 ins were all significant downgrades on the 3 outs. Fisher Willy and Cunners are all so damaging with their ball use. But not many others banging down the door.

Overall I was happy with the boys willingness to keep the intensity up but it was a generally average night.

We really needed Bolt early in the last but he was on the bench for an extended period. Very happy with his game tonight. Aside from all the positive stated on here about Cripps already I was at the game and was amazed how hard he worked away from the ball to get himself into the right spots. Same from Silvani. Obviously with less total impact but his work ethic is first class.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:21 am 
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Gibbs kick to Pickett in the last qtr was overcooked.

Don't be too hard on him for that one people.

A game shouldn't come down to an isolated incident in a pressure situation.

We played loose football and were punished accordingly.

It was half a metre too high. I thought it was well paced, though and he might well have marked it anyway. That half a metre lower and there is a twelve point difference in the scores and momentum.
Just the same, we never deserved to win and had we, I would have taken it gladly but it would have been as big a heist as the Great Train Robbery.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:25 am 
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Gibbs kick to Pickett in the last qtr was overcooked.



Nah, he had plenty of opportunity to go back if he needed to but he misread it completely. You can't pin that one on Gibbs.


Yep. Pickett had his chance but didn't seize the moment. Unfortunately he froze up and butchered the play in the worst possible way.

I hope he has a massive pre season and eats plenty of raw red meat and comes back thinking he belongs. He looks too shy out there.


I'm pretty keen to see the replay of this. I recall Pickett at full stretch with the ball a foot above his hands, not through his fingers as the commentators called it.

I'm happy to be wrong here...hope you are as well.

He does play a bit reserved, on that I'll 100% agree.

You are correct. The pass was half a metre too high for him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:15 am 
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Gibbs kick to Pickett in the last qtr was overcooked.



Nah, he had plenty of opportunity to go back if he needed to but he misread it completely. You can't pin that one on Gibbs.


Yep. Pickett had his chance but didn't seize the moment. Unfortunately he froze up and butchered the play in the worst possible way.

I hope he has a massive pre season and eats plenty of raw red meat and comes back thinking he belongs. He looks too shy out there.


I'm pretty keen to see the replay of this. I recall Pickett at full stretch with the ball a foot above his hands, not through his fingers as the commentators called it.

I'm happy to be wrong here...hope you are as well.

He does play a bit reserved, on that I'll 100% agree.

You are correct. The pass was half a metre too high for him.


I haven't seen the replay so I'm not sure how much of the build up is on camera but at the ground it seemed like he ran full speed under the ball instead of holding his ground against the Richmond player running at him.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:04 am 
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Brian Taylor's inability to call the correct names.


:) Yeah that time when Casboult took the mark and BT kept calling him Kreuzer and saying "let's see if he gets the ball drop right", calls him Kreuzer another 3 times, then says "nice goal Kreuzer", then just before it cuts to an ad - "I mean Casboult!" - classic BT.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:46 am 
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I'm over carrying duds like BB and Graham, who've both had ample chances to make it.
Their time is up at the end of the year.
Pickett only on his 6th AFL game with a limited pre season. Give the kid a break.


Boeky, smedts and graham were all terrible, and a significant downgrade on fisher, cuningham and Williamson, which is both an indictment on those coming in and a compliment for the new guys who are out injured.

Boeky is too soft and doesn't work hard enough, and even when he does isn't that damaging.

Smedts is just a nothing player. Was a salary dump so not too concerned

Graham tries hard but is really just a ooor mans Brock McLean


None of these players has a future at this club. I am glad you left Pickett off this list - needs time. Those four, plus SPS getting tired (and Lamb knocked out)... we were carrying six players. The rest of our boys will learn a lot from the experience, and Richmond won't make it far in September. Should have beaten us by at least 60 today.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:58 am 
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I'm surprised our good kids are spared from negative comments.

Pickett was much better than Samo yesterday. Samo needs a spell or lift his work ethic back to where it was after a poor month either side of the rest.

Smedts was terrible.

Graham was ok, just not damaging.

From a team perspective, we looked flat and without spark. We needed another big target inside 50 to provide a better contest.

SOS was very quiet, and Weitering just looks immobile at times to be damaging anyway at present.

Tigers should've spanked us yesterday if they kicked straight.

Goodbye Houli for 4 weeks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:34 am 
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According to AFL journo logic, we probably didn't boo Houli because we aren't racist.


Now that's interesting. I *did* boo him but I followed up by explaining very loudly to people around me that it was because of what he did and not who he is.

I also booed him. I saw the incident and was surprised it wasn't shown on the scoreboard.


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bluehammer wrote:
Carlton were crap. Richmond were slightly less crap. Umpiring was slightly more crap.

Ordinary game on every level

Sums up the game perfectly.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:39 am 
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God what a crap game that was. My buddy in New York who's just gotten into Footy was watching it live. He fell asleep at half time. Can't say I blame him.


- BB, Pickett and Graham just don't look like AFL players sadly.
- Murphy was well done. Time to give the captaincy to somebody else? My vote is with Docherty!
- Bloody Richmond supporters!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:


Kreuzer surely has to come into all Australian calculations now? He's having a cracking year. Sign him up and make him a Blue for life.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:41 am 
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Was anyone else sitting in the Ponsford Stand near the cheer squad and saw those three feral Richmond supporters escorted from the ground by the police?
They clearly sat there on purpose just to stir up trouble and earlier in game were walking up and down the aisles near the cheer squad yelling abuse and copping it back.
At least these morons didnt get the see the end and enjoy their victory.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:42 am 
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Just always looked off the pace...those ins were shocking. Graham tries but he just has too many limitations.

Having said that we weren't terrible either - some nice signs from Curnow, & Kreuz was good again.

I thought the umpiring was poor, both ways.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:46 am 
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I Really just wanna punch Jack Riewoldt in the face whenever he smiles.


Surely im not the only one?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:51 am 
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Going to the ground, I was worried that after we'd been up for a few weeks, we were due for a 'down' and this certainly occurred. Thought we just looked flat. As said, scoreboard flattered us.

Thought it was funny that whenever there was a shocking umpiring decision, the scoreboard with flash up with the details of dobbing in anti-social behaviour.

I'm not sure what Samo's role was yesterday. He looked somewhat lost. Credit to Richmond who always pressured our ball movement whilst Richmond seem o cut us apart with ease.

There has to be some mantra when playing Richmond of kicking it nowhere near Rance. Tigers are 6 goals better than they should be because of him. Need to find a way to isolate him and kick around or over him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:52 am 
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I Really just wanna punch Jack Riewoldt in the face whenever he smiles.


Surely im not the only one?

I like him. Sorry... What can I say? I like Martin too. The rest of them, including their overrated, pooncy, sniping captain, can all swim at the bottom of the ocean.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:01 am 
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ryan2000 wrote:
I Really just wanna punch Jack Riewoldt in the face whenever he smiles.


Surely im not the only one?


Why wait for him to smile?


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bluehammer wrote:
Carlton were crap. Richmond were slightly less crap. Umpiring was slightly more crap.

Ordinary game on every level

Succinct and true. Tiges were better than us ..but they are still shite. Tiges and us were both ripped off by umps at times. I had forgotten we don't have asos atm.. hopefully rowe too. Makes a big diff.
I honestly think we can make the 8 with one more good draft.

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