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We lost to St Kilda because we let Billings off the leash. We do the same with Hill and we will get flogged.
Billings got off the leash because we had no one to run with him.
Now I am all for development and getting games into players but what this side needs to take itself to the next level is to learn when the game is there to be won you win it.
Billings should have been shut down and the man for that job was dropped despite having 12 possessions and 9 tackles the week before. Kerridge should have played instead of Fisher.
Kerridge plays we win.
I think winning is far more important for team development than game time into Zac.
You can develop youngsters in 2 to 3 game blocks but not all at once.
Our youth struggled on the weekend and yet we still got close.
Saints are a better side than Freo .This is a winnable game but Bolton and MC need to learn as well

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Big call.
Don't reckon Kerridge could go with him.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:56 am 
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IN: KJ Cunningham Boekhorst
OUT: White, Thomas, Casboult

KJ to FF
Weitering down back
Rowe to second ruck


Drop White - drop a bloke in the best form of his career at a time our backline is widely lauded as being awesome so far this year.....just to make way for KJ?
Weitering down back - ditch what the MC and Bolts have been trying to do so far this season with Wietering's long term development as a swingman.....just to make room for KJ?
Rowe to second ruck - so take away the great second ruck we already have AND after whipping boy Rowe has cemented his spot in the backline let's move him......just so you can make way for KJ?

And people wonder why people call the KJ thing an obsession......

Ps: KJ is playing good footy and I think he deserves a chance soon.....just not at the expense of our team structure :grin:


White turns it over once or twice a game, but so do all of our senior players. I think that what goes unnoticed by fans is the pressure acts and reading of the play that he mostly gets right. No way I would be dropping him at this stage.

He turns it over less than Murphy. Mind you, Murphy has more opportunities to turn it over...

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:59 am 
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bmaurizio wrote:
Jaksch is 22yrs old and a mobile and versatile tall capable of kicking a goal or two at least. His youth and high pick status may have blurred his vision and obviously distracted him , but he's not first and won't be the last in this game.
Would have thought it was about time to challenge him further , give him the final a
crack to make the team. Leaving him to languish in the 2nds is not the solution.
A bias for or against any player is not the ideal environment to play the kids in .

That is a reasonable post in isolation but nobody can tell anybody who should be dropped for KJ.
The most plausible reason I have seen is that he comes in when (if) we rest Weitering

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Jones was the Hero last time we played Freo in Perth, so bring him back in LOL. He is ahead of Jacksh-it

In all fairness, neither players deserve to be on an AFL List. C-Graders at best. How about we give H.Mackay a run?



I'm confused by that one.
The 2 supposed C graders are in very good form but you'd rather play someone who has done far less in recent weeks.
In fact, Jones has far and away been our best performed and most consistent player this season.
What are we basing promotion on if not form?

Jones and Jaksch may well be C graders in your eyes but they're easily outperforming the bloke you want to promote..



Looking at the Bigger Picture-The Future... needs to start pumping Games into H.Mackay


Jones & Jacksh are not part of our Future.....waste of time and space playing either of them!!

If Jones and Jacksh keep playing like they are, they might BOTH be part of the future.

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Just out of interest... why do we call jack SOJ? Son of Jack? Bit odd. Has to be SOS or SOSOS or GOS doesn't it?


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Who else is he a son of?


hickory holler's tramp?

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Hill had speed and stamina against Richmond. From the bits and pieces I saw his running to help out the defence was just as fast as when he was running forward. It was incredible. And his disposal was remarkably good considering he must have been fatigued on many occasions when disposing.

Just going to need to be well organised with a player taking him in either half of the field. Don't think anyone could cover him with the level of fitness I saw. He would cook SPS (no preseason) very quickly. Curnow wouldn't have the top end speed. If Kerridge couldn't tag him he has no other role to move him to. Great challenge for the coaching group to minimise his impact.


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Hill had speed and stamina against Richmond. From the bits and pieces I saw his running to help out the defence was just as fast as when he was running forward. It was incredible. And his disposal was remarkably good considering he must have been fatigued on many occasions when disposing.

Just going to need to be well organised with a player taking him in either half of the field. Don't think anyone could cover him with the level of fitness I saw. He would cook SPS (no preseason) very quickly. Curnow wouldn't have the top end speed. If Kerridge couldn't tag him he has no other role to move him to. Great challenge for the coaching group to minimise his impact.


Give Pickett 60 minutes of run-with time on him. Would be great development.


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:15 pm 
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Although i believe we should be putting time into Hill, Richmond's defensive structures are not as sound as ours.


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If there are no injuries, it will be interesting to see if any changes occur

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One thing that hasn't really been mentioned is our lack of injuries to key players which has been the hallmark of seasons past.

Agree totally.
Discussed with friends but I haven't put it here, we've had a dream run... Hopefully a combination of luck (collision injuries) and good planning (soft tissue injuries)
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Hill had speed and stamina against Richmond. From the bits and pieces I saw his running to help out the defence was just as fast as when he was running forward. It was incredible. And his disposal was remarkably good considering he must have been fatigued on many occasions when disposing.

Just going to need to be well organised with a player taking him in either half of the field. Don't think anyone could cover him with the level of fitness I saw. He would cook SPS (no preseason) very quickly. Curnow wouldn't have the top end speed. If Kerridge couldn't tag him he has no other role to move him to. Great challenge for the coaching group to minimise his impact.



Or just give him nothing to run toward. Take our chances and have a bit of faith in our defensive set ups.

No point trying to deny him the ball. He'll get a bit. That's his role and it's difficult to control. What we can limit is his options forward to stifle his efficiency.

Freo's forwards aren't world beaters, we'll match up well and get a bit of drive.

Looking forward to heading to the ground for this one.

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Michael Walters will present his own problems too. Hope it rains, then rains then hails


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It's forecast to be cold and raining on Sunday here in Perth.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:29 am 
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It's forecast to be cold and raining on Sunday here in Perth.


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Perfect.

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Wet track does suit us. But as we're playing a side coached by Ross Lyon a slog won't be as advantageous as it was against soft front-runners like Essendon* and Collingwood.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:36 pm 
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I don't think we beat Ess or Coll because we are particularly great at wet weather football per se (although watching SPS handle the ball as if it was dry was sublime...).
No, I think we won b/c we are good at being able to adapt to the situation as required which is more about cognitive ability, decision making, adapting game plans and team rules in real time etc... which is precisely the qualities that Bolton & co have been recruiting for.
As distinct from the Bombers who didn't even try to adapt to the wet conditions, and especially the Pies who probably couldn't adapt even if they wanted to b/c of their rigid game plan and coach.

I believe this is a much more valuable attribute than just being good in the wet b/c it means we are developing an ability to respond to any situation we face (e.g. windy conditions, speed the game up, slow it down, decisions under pressure, losing key players mid-match, swinging positions on the ground within a match etc...).


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Just out of interest... why do we call jack SOJ? Son of Jack? Bit odd. Has to be SOS or SOSOS or GOS doesn't it?


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Who else is he a son of?


hickory holler's tramp?

You're talking about Jo there, mate.

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Blue Sombrero wrote:
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Just out of interest... why do we call jack SOJ? Son of Jack? Bit odd. Has to be SOS or SOSOS or GOS doesn't it?


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Who else is he a son of?


hickory holler's tramp?

You're talking about Jo there, mate.


didn't think of that - solely thinking of the song....................

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perhaps dale can run with hill?

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Apparently there was talk on SEN today that Gibbs won't play.


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