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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:18 pm 
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The only player I never want to see again is Jaksch. I have it in for him. I don't know why.


Sound logic


Same logic as the MC unfortunately


What a load of rubbish. He's played 14 career games for a total of 3 goals. He plays well in the VFL but hardly dominates. I honestly don't get the love affair for him on here.


You see, that's where your inferencing and interpretation skills are somewhat deficient.

Nobody is in love with him here. Some people on this site believe that given our dearth of talent up forward, his reasonably good form over the year as a KPF in the VFL and improved contested marking probably should've been enough to give him a try at senior level

Boekhorst, Buckley, White, Rowe, Armfield, Jones etc are all players who have shown they have limitations and probably not part of next years squad. And for most, if not all of the above, most fans could've highlighted those weaknesses 12-24 months ago.

But...we got to see those players on multiple occasions to make that call. The same cannot be said about Jacksh. He has played 1 game for Carlton.

You will probably get your wish and see him off our list. Was he given a fair go? IMHO, absolutely not

And by the way, go and do some research on Josh Kennedy's first 10-15 games for Carlton...Or Casboult's first 50 games?


Reasonably good form over the year? There have been 2 VFL games. Maybe you meant years not year because he had some good VFL games last year.

He's played 1 game for us? What the? He's played 7 for a return of 1 goal.

I've never ever once said a bad word about him. Do a search on my posts. I've simply agreed with the MC that his form has been good at times but not good enough for a call up. I actually hope he does the extra little things the MC are looking for and gets a few games in the 1's. I really do.

You asked me to go look at Kenedy and Bolt so I did. Well I looked at Kenedy anyway. In his first two seasons he played 21 games for 10 goals. In his third season he played 7 games and kicked 7 goals. In his fourth he played 16 and kicked 31. KJ in his third played 6 games for 1 goal and then 1 game for no goals.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:25 pm 
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Crippa wrote:
You asked me to go look at Kenedy and Bolt so I did. Well I looked at Kenedy anyway. In his first two seasons he played 21 games for 10 goals. In his third season he played 7 games and kicked 7 goals. In his fourth he played 16 and kicked 31. KJ in his third played 6 games for 1 goal and then 1 game for no goals.


But by the way I don't think that proves anything either way. But you asked me to look at at. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:29 pm 
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Crippa wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Got my wish Rowe Silvagni A and white all in the same backline
Can't remember a less talented backline trio except perhaps in the days of Mick Martyn
Swans by Plenty
Not really worth going to the G on Saturday given with those 3 waxing in the backline giving it back to the opposition will play the swans into form after 5 straight losses
Happy days and a real backward step in my view

We all bang on about Jaksch and Im a fan as you all know but surely if he can't get a game in front of these 3 he really is cactus at the end of the year


Do us all a favour with that negative attitude and stay home. I'll be there. We will lose but the boys deserve support.


Totally agree with you Crippa.
Carlton circa 2017 isn't for the faint hearted.

You either believe in the journey we are on or you don't.
You either have faith that the MC knows more about the players then we do, or you don't.
If you don't believe in the latter re MC know best, then you're pulling your own leg.

You have to stick the journey and not chop and change on a weekly basis because of one or two selections.
That's the programme Carlton is on. If you don't like ityou're going to have many a cloudy day when there's green shoots to see every week.

Thomas isn't playing.
Alex has done the job on Buddy 3 times.
Rowe has had a great year on the best KPF's...a chop out for Marchbank and Plowman.
There's kids galore including teens: SPS, Fisher, Williamson, Silvagni, Curnow, Weitering, Cripps, Marchbank, Plowman.
DE Boix is injured, Macreadie needs a rest, and McKay I building up.
Thought Cuningham would have been given a go, but he wouldn't replace Alex or Rowe, nor Palmer Smedts or Kerridge.
What's the problem?

Pickett may need a rest.
Polson could have been spared, but it aint the end of the world.
I'm not a Graham fan, but he's earned his spot and glad he faces big bodies Swans mids than Polson
As for Jaksch, spare me. He hasn't set the world ofire and it seems to me McKay is showing more desire and mobility than the laconic Jaksch
Its a rebuild. The MC pick kids who have earned a spot and dropped them as they see fit.
I'm backing the MC coz there is no other alternative and I like where we are heading.

Swans are going to go in harder and tougher to get their first win.
Their midfield has been out form and look sore to me.

And if the Swans win, I wont give a flying flower in 2 weeks time.

Go Blues.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:33 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
Crippa wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
TheSwan wrote:
The only player I never want to see again is Jaksch. I have it in for him. I don't know why.


Sound logic


Same logic as the MC unfortunately


What a load of rubbish. He's played 14 career games for a total of 3 goals. He plays well in the VFL but hardly dominates. I honestly don't get the love affair for him on here.


You see, that's where your inferencing and interpretation skills are somewhat deficient.

Nobody is in love with him here. Some people on this site believe that given our dearth of talent up forward, his reasonably good form over the year as a KPF in the VFL and improved contested marking probably should've been enough to give him a try at senior level

Boekhorst, Buckley, White, Rowe, Armfield, Jones etc are all players who have shown they have limitations and probably not part of next years squad. And for most, if not all of the above, most fans could've highlighted those weaknesses 12-24 months ago.

But...we got to see those players on multiple occasions to make that call. The same cannot be said about Jacksh. He has played 1 game for Carlton.

You will probably get your wish and see him off our list. Was he given a fair go? IMHO, absolutely not

And by the way, go and do some research on Josh Kennedy's first 10-15 games for Carlton...Or Casboult's first 50 games?


I tend to agree, it would be nice seeing KJ get another game and see what he's got to offer, especially considering what we gave up to get him to the club. But I doubt the MC aren't selecting him because they have it in for him. They see him train every session and play every week in the 2s. I'm sure there's a reason he's not getting a game and I'm guessing it's something to do with his work rate or effort.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:36 pm 
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Graham-deserved
Smedts-Best 22 unlucky to be dropped and we have a dearth of link players
Kreuzer no brainer
Alex Silvagni- A buddy specialist


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Alex played in Freo's last five games
Poor Alex had Buddy Boyd Kennedy Cameron and Walker.

Welcome back heres Buddy again

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:20 pm 
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BTW - Hope Graham now gets a good go at it. He can play.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:15 pm 
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So we've invested a pick 7 to procure a talented and versitle tall and a fast outside midfileder with a neat kick and neither can get a game .
Very strange situation, much patience is needed perhaps a few more games in the season will reveal more.
Meanwhile Go Baggers give all ya got.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:51 pm 
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We invested a pick 7 in 2 players who lack hardness at the contest


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:11 am 
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I like the change of culture where you perform or don't get a game.

Clearly there are going to be further casualties from the present list, but raising the bar for the younger blokes is going to pay off for us.

Changes this week are fair enough.

Polson last cab on, first off won't hurt him.

Jaksch will get a go when he meets his KPIs.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:59 am 
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Sneaking suspicion that there has been a bit of work on forward line set ups for this week. Hoping for a few new set ups that work better for us and give us a chance in this game. I am enjoying watching this developing side. Two games at the G. Reckon we are 50/50 to win one of these.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:18 am 
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This is Sam's breakout week.
Well, it could be. If he gets into space this week we might see him in full flight.
Sydney are accustomed to playing on the shorter ground although it has been enlarged sincethe early days.
Their midfield is not slick and they like it hard inside the contest.
Enter Graham.
Smedts can play football, make no mistake. He will like the oen spaces as should.
McReadie had to go for Silvagni. Williamson is playing too well to get dropped.
I think this is a good selection of ins and outs.

Bit like picking a cricket team to suit the opposition and the pitch.
We'll go down in my opinion but I like the way the team is being managed through the storm.
We gain nothing from getting thrashed by 100 points a week. We gain little from finishing 13th. We gain a lot from giving the kids a run and managing their development.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:39 am 
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The selections seem about right.

Select on need and Reward some good NB's form, perfect.

KJ ? He played a quarter of footy . He really should be ahead of someone either forward or back but he ain't and I'm not sure that's anyone's fault but his own.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:01 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Crippa wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Got my wish Rowe Silvagni A and white all in the same backline
Can't remember a less talented backline trio except perhaps in the days of Mick Martyn
Swans by Plenty
Not really worth going to the G on Saturday given with those 3 waxing in the backline giving it back to the opposition will play the swans into form after 5 straight losses
Happy days and a real backward step in my view

We all bang on about Jaksch and Im a fan as you all know but surely if he can't get a game in front of these 3 he really is cactus at the end of the year


Do us all a favour with that negative attitude and stay home. I'll be there. We will lose but the boys deserve support.


Totally agree with you Crippa.
Carlton circa 2017 isn't for the faint hearted.

You either believe in the journey we are on or you don't.
You either have faith that the MC knows more about the players then we do, or you don't.
If you don't believe in the latter re MC know best, then you're pulling your own leg.

You have to stick the journey and not chop and change on a weekly basis because of one or two selections.
That's the programme Carlton is on. If you don't like ityou're going to have many a cloudy day when there's green shoots to see every week.

Thomas isn't playing.
Alex has done the job on Buddy 3 times.
Rowe has had a great year on the best KPF's...a chop out for Marchbank and Plowman.
There's kids galore including teens: SPS, Fisher, Williamson, Silvagni, Curnow, Weitering, Cripps, Marchbank, Plowman.
DE Boix is injured, Macreadie needs a rest, and McKay I building up.
Thought Cuningham would have been given a go, but he wouldn't replace Alex or Rowe, nor Palmer Smedts or Kerridge.
What's the problem?

Pickett may need a rest.
Polson could have been spared, but it aint the end of the world.
I'm not a Graham fan, but he's earned his spot and glad he faces big bodies Swans mids than Polson
As for Jaksch, spare me. He hasn't set the world ofire and it seems to me McKay is showing more desire and mobility than the laconic Jaksch
Its a rebuild. The MC pick kids who have earned a spot and dropped them as they see fit.
I'm backing the MC coz there is no other alternative and I like where we are heading.

Swans are going to go in harder and tougher to get their first win.
Their midfield has been out form and look sore to me.

And if the Swans win, I wont give a flying flower in 2 weeks time.

Go Blues.


Ripper post there Bondi. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:30 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Crippa wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Got my wish Rowe Silvagni A and white all in the same backline
Can't remember a less talented backline trio except perhaps in the days of Mick Martyn
Swans by Plenty
Not really worth going to the G on Saturday given with those 3 waxing in the backline giving it back to the opposition will play the swans into form after 5 straight losses
Happy days and a real backward step in my view

We all bang on about Jaksch and Im a fan as you all know but surely if he can't get a game in front of these 3 he really is cactus at the end of the year


Do us all a favour with that negative attitude and stay home. I'll be there. We will lose but the boys deserve support.


Totally agree with you Crippa.
Carlton circa 2017 isn't for the faint hearted.

You either believe in the journey we are on or you don't.
You either have faith that the MC knows more about the players then we do, or you don't.
If you don't believe in the latter re MC know best, then you're pulling your own leg.

You have to stick the journey and not chop and change on a weekly basis because of one or two selections.
That's the programme Carlton is on. If you don't like ityou're going to have many a cloudy day when there's green shoots to see every week.

Thomas isn't playing.
Alex has done the job on Buddy 3 times.
Rowe has had a great year on the best KPF's...a chop out for Marchbank and Plowman.
There's kids galore including teens: SPS, Fisher, Williamson, Silvagni, Curnow, Weitering, Cripps, Marchbank, Plowman.
DE Boix is injured, Macreadie needs a rest, and McKay I building up.
Thought Cuningham would have been given a go, but he wouldn't replace Alex or Rowe, nor Palmer Smedts or Kerridge.
What's the problem?

Pickett may need a rest.
Polson could have been spared, but it aint the end of the world.
I'm not a Graham fan, but he's earned his spot and glad he faces big bodies Swans mids than Polson
As for Jaksch, spare me. He hasn't set the world ofire and it seems to me McKay is showing more desire and mobility than the laconic Jaksch
Its a rebuild. The MC pick kids who have earned a spot and dropped them as they see fit.
I'm backing the MC coz there is no other alternative and I like where we are heading.

Swans are going to go in harder and tougher to get their first win.
Their midfield has been out form and look sore to me.

And if the Swans win, I wont give a flying flower in 2 weeks time.

Go Blues.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:46 am 
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Crippa wrote:

You asked me to go look at Kenedy and Bolt so I did. Well I looked at Kenedy anyway. In his first two seasons he played 21 games for 10 goals. In his third season he played 7 games and kicked 7 goals. In his fourth he played 16 and kicked 31. KJ in his third played 6 games for 1 goal and then 1 game for no goals.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:58 am 
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Centenaryblue wrote:
Sneaking suspicion that there has been a bit of work on forward line set ups for this week. Hoping for a few new set ups that work better for us and give us a chance in this game. I am enjoying watching this developing side. Two games at the G. Reckon we are 50/50 to win one of these.

If we win one of them I hope its the Collingwood game, which will be the nail in Eddy and Buckley's coffin.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:02 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
BTW - Hope Graham now gets a good go at it. He can play.

I would love Graham to get a fair crack at it and a few games in a row, but I just think he lacks pace at the AFL level and doesn't really make up for his lack of pace by being elite in other area i.e. disposal or skills.


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Very relieved that apparently we've been practicing stuff at training.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:05 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
The selections seem about right.

Select on need and Reward some good NB's form, perfect.

KJ ? He played a quarter of footy . He really should be ahead of someone either forward or back but he ain't and I'm not sure that's anyone's fault but his own.


You obviously have a grasp on his form line.
How many NB games have you watched this season Cimm?

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