We need to be creative as we are in a massive hole.

I honestly don't think people realize how flowered the list is.

If we can get first round compo for Kreuze (unlikely but AFL could do a frawley compo for us) we would be dumb not to let him go.

As for Gibbs if he still wants to go and Adelaide can offer us something we would have to seriously look at it.

Need to target more out of contract players. There is a bit more in the GWS money tree yet, Kelly would be exactly what we need

Spot on we've got to think out of the box and I hope the AFL give us a hand if we win less than 4 games.
We're so far adrift it's not funny. Certainly trade Gibbs if the Crows come a calling , let Kreuzer go if he wants out and hopefully wie'll receive a priority.
Trade our 2018 1sr rounder too.
Silvagni and Brodie must be aggressive and smart.
Go Blues

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Last year was a red herring really, this year will be far more sobering.

All of the sides below us from last year should improve and have better lists than us, and it wold take a major implosion for anyone else to finish below us.

It's going to be tough but we must stay be course, but we could win as little as 2 games I think

It's true , difficult to find 4 games we can win this year let's hope the AFL come to rescue and grant us a decent priority pick , our situation is not rosey.

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Afl will have to grant us a priority pick after giving the lions one last year.
Will end up with pick 1, 19 and 20.
Will Adelaide offer there first pick again for Gibbs?
If so, we should take it, end up with 4 picks inside the top 20.
May have picks 1, 15, 19 and 20 without even trying to get creative.
Weitering, Marchbank, SPS, Pickett, McCreadie, Charlie, SOJ, Lebois, McKay, Fisher, Polson and Williamson, these kids will be our building blocks along with Cripps, Docherty and Byrne.
Need another two years of drafting and we are away boys..

We traded this years 2nd round pick to Geelong so at this stage we have only Pick 1

Dreams shattered.

How could you?

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We have zero margin for error and need a lot to go right beyond expectation.
I don't think it's really thinking out of the box to trade Gibbs and Kruezer if we can get something really good for them. Seems a pretty obvious and necessary move, given neither of them will be there when we are in a Premiership window and I feel it would be more counter-productive to trade for Murphy who is a) our captain and b) older.

Our ideal scenario is:
a) Kruezer
- Kruezer has a fantastic and full season, maintaining or improving on his round 1 form
- A good team loses their first choice ruckman (e.g. Mumford gets injured or his form drops)
- This team (let's call them GWS) either loses the GF by a few hitouts or wins but it becomes clear that their ruckman is on his last legs

b) Gibbs
- Gibbs has a fantastic season
- Adelaide loses a Prelim or the GF and realises that Gibbs could be (have been) the difference...

We need to keep being creative to try to get more talent than we have the chips to trade for. As we have done the past two years where, in addition to our high natural draft picks, we are hoping that Marchbank, Plowman, Pickett and maybe Smedts find a way to reach the potential they showed as juniors.
This, in addition to our successful high picks/recruits: Cripps, Docherty, Weitering, McKay, C.Curnow, SPS... and hopefully a couple of our lower picks from the past couple of years e.g. Cunningham, Fisher, Polson, Macreadie... and throw in a few 'hail Mary-types' e.g. Wright, Kerridge, Lamb, Sumner. I assume Jakcsh is beyond repair

If we do finish bottom the Tuohy trade is not looking so good, especially if Geelong finish near the top.

yet to be determined but don't think Cats are near the top and don't have ridiculously easy draw as last year - doubt they make top 4 - will likely make the 8 but lower reaches AT BEST - GWS Adelaide Dogs Sydney and West Coast all better teams in my view and less reliant on their guns or have more guns than Geelong

Don't forget Geelong have big hearted Hendo.

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Look don't know but with all the trading of 3 of our picks to GWS (including giving Geelong's 1rd pick to them) I get the feeling we did a deal with GWS to get Macreadie as he was a GWS Academy player and they relocated him but didn't match our bid at #47 instead they used #58 on Matt de Boer from Freo??

Maybe their was more to the Tuohy trade?

Ive posted this elsewhere but not sure how you can say it's not looking good

the deal was effectively

Marchbank, Smedts and Polson

for

Tuohy and Whatever they get with 2nd rounder this year

Marchbank is only 20 and on available evidence looks like a 200 gamer. Smedts could be handy, likewise Polson.

Tuohy whilst durable is 27 (28 later this year) and the 2nd rounder may or may not work for them.

I think it was a good deal for us...

Wasn't Pickett also part of that trade?

That's what I thought.

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That's hope if you add Macreadie, Cunningham and Fisher. Terrific influx of talent if they all get to 100 games together. Half a side and then some if you add Weitering who is younger than Marchbank. Plus Byrne and Plowman.

List is good but we need a lot of midfielders

the deal was effectively

Marchbank, Smedts, Pickett and Polson

for

Tuohy and Whatever they get with 2nd rounder this year

Personally I don't hold out much hope for Smedts, I think he was the steak knives in the deal. Poison could go either way, no idea but Marchbank and Pickett look good. Touchy was one of my favourites but he will probably be finishing up by the time we are any good again.

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this

C: Curnow Cripps Petrevski-Seton
R: Kreuzer "Top five pick" Fisher

Forwards/Mids: Cunningham Boekhorst Pickett Polson

Curnow could be our Bont/Macrae after we pushed him into the midfield. Rangy type who can keep his arms free in traffic and push forward to take a grab.