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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:21 pm 
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Didn't see it, but Grigg has acted like a flog in every game against Carlton.


A reminder that not all ex Carlton players should be revered.

GRIGG IS A TOTAL FLOG

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:50 pm 
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The selection of Macreadie was fantastic for the kid but it unbalanced our side. At stages we had Plowman, Marchbank, Rowe, Macreadie and Simon White in defence whilst one of Simpson or Docherty were being forced out onto the wing. 5 players at 190cm or taller while Richmond played a pacy forward line. No surprise that Butler, Castagna and Rioli kicked 6 between them.

The biggest frustration for me was when we moved the ball quickly and got it inside 50, we usually marked it and scored. The bullshit handballing ahead of the play and overpossessing has continually got us into trouble in the JLT and again last night. Posters knock our forwards but FMD, I'd hate to be playing forward for Carlton the way we're rooting around with the ball at the moment. Not that they'd listen but my message to the coaches would be, forget trying to replicate the Bulldogs or the Saints and try to be proactive. Do what actually suits your list demographic instead of being reactive @#$%&! sheep! We have 2 of the better marking players in the game inside forward 50. Give them a chance to play to their strengths.
From memory we had 7 scoring shots at quarter time from 7 inside 50 marks, from not many more inside 50s.

If they dont mark it, have your crumbers at their feet. Why do coaches continually try to overcomplicate the game?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:58 pm 
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The selection of Macreadie was fantastic for the kid but it unbalanced our side. At stages we had Plowman, Marchbank, Rowe, Macreadie and Simon White in defence whilst one of Simpson or Docherty were being forced out onto the wing. 5 players at 190cm or taller while Richmond played a pacy forward line. No surprise that Butler, Castagna and Rioli kicked 6 between them.

The biggest frustration for me was when we moved the ball quickly and got it inside 50, we usually marked it and scored. The bullshit handballing ahead of the play and overpossessing has continually got us into trouble in the JLT and again last night. Posters knock our forwards but FMD, I'd hate to be playing forward for Carlton the way we're rooting around with the ball at the moment. Not that they'd listen but my message to the coaches would be, forget trying to replicate the Bulldogs or the Saints and try to be proactive. Do what actually suits your list demographic instead of being reactive @#$%&! sheep! We have 2 of the better marking players in the game inside forward 50. Give them a chance to play to their strengths.
From memory we had 7 scoring shots at quarter time from 7 inside 50 marks, from not many more inside 50s.

If they dont mark it, have your crumbers at their feet. Why do coaches continually try to overcomplicate the game?



Structurally I see your point, but Macreadie although taller than Lamb, is actually faster, stronger and more agile than Lamb and dare I say more versatile.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:58 pm 
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Bit of a historic night last night. We haven't lost to Richmond by 43 points since 1971.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:00 pm 
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Couldn't be too unhappy with that, but gee we got killed at the stoppages, plus too slow in defence when ball hit the ground. White and Thomas to go? Would have liked to see a bit more from our experienced players.

We'll win a few, but it's going to be a long, hard season for the kids. I fear they'll fall away badly towards the end of the year. Roll on 2019, all things being equal (and with luck with injuries) we could be a good side by then. A flag in 2020? There, I've said it.

Don't know what to think of the Tiges, I felt that if we kicked the first goal of the last quarter they may well have started to panic. Ninth again? And Rance is a dirty prick.



two incidents and probably nothing will come of it :mad:
the thing that pissed me off was that no one especially casboult didn't do anything about it

Rance is a dirty prick. He shoved Weitering to the ground, hurting him, and the ball was 40 metres away. A free kick at least, it happened in the first minute of the game. Weitering did well to run the game out, and beat that prick.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:02 pm 
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kezza wrote:
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Couldn't be too unhappy with that, but gee we got killed at the stoppages, plus too slow in defence when ball hit the ground. White and Thomas to go? Would have liked to see a bit more from our experienced players.

We'll win a few, but it's going to be a long, hard season for the kids. I fear they'll fall away badly towards the end of the year. Roll on 2019, all things being equal (and with luck with injuries) we could be a good side by then. A flag in 2020? There, I've said it.

Don't know what to think of the Tiges, I felt that if we kicked the first goal of the last quarter they may well have started to panic. Ninth again? And Rance is a dirty prick.



two incidents and probably nothing will come of it :mad:
the thing that pissed me off was that no one especially casboult didn't do anything about it

Rance is a dirty prick. He shoved Weitering to the ground, hurting him, and the ball was 40 metres away. A free kick at least, it happened in the first minute of the game. Weitering did well to run the game out, and beat that prick.



Rance is now a fully fledged member of the AFL Good Ole Boys Media Club - nothing to see here move on.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:05 pm 
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Bit of a historic night last night. We haven't lost to Richmond by 43 points since 1971.


And we haven't lost 5 in row to them since the 70's as well.
Records being broken against us is just the norm these days...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:08 pm 
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Slightly off topic but does anyone else here have reserved seats on level 1? I sit in M50 and last night noticed lots of Richmond supporters sitting in our section. There were no attendants on the stairwell the goes to the underneath section and people were just walking in. I approached another attendant about it and he told me that the MCG were cutting costs and cutting back on staff. It shits me that I pay $550 on a membership and those will general admission tickets could just walk in and sit in our area. I rang the club and the MCG today and waiting for someone from the MCG to ring me back with an explanation.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:11 pm 
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Thought the game was ok.

Quite a few shining lights.

I think this group will improve. Tigers not so much.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:47 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
The selection of Macreadie was fantastic for the kid but it unbalanced our side. At stages we had Plowman, Marchbank, Rowe, Macreadie and Simon White in defence whilst one of Simpson or Docherty were being forced out onto the wing. 5 players at 190cm or taller while Richmond played a pacy forward line. No surprise that Butler, Castagna and Rioli kicked 6 between them.

The biggest frustration for me was when we moved the ball quickly and got it inside 50, we usually marked it and scored. The bullshit handballing ahead of the play and overpossessing has continually got us into trouble in the JLT and again last night. Posters knock our forwards but FMD, I'd hate to be playing forward for Carlton the way we're rooting around with the ball at the moment. Not that they'd listen but my message to the coaches would be, forget trying to replicate the Bulldogs or the Saints and try to be proactive. Do what actually suits your list demographic instead of being reactive @#$%&! sheep! We have 2 of the better marking players in the game inside forward 50. Give them a chance to play to their strengths.
From memory we had 7 scoring shots at quarter time from 7 inside 50 marks, from not many more inside 50s.

If they dont mark it, have your crumbers at their feet. Why do coaches continually try to overcomplicate the game?



Structurally I see your point, but Macreadie although taller than Lamb, is actually faster, stronger and more agile than Lamb and dare I say more versatile.


:wink:


I agree. So play him on the wing or up forward. Our defence was significantly unbalanced.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:51 pm 
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BV Blind Freddy knew we had too many talls, and if Blind Freddy knew then I suspect the MC knew too, which tells me this was a subtle form of tanking. They've suggested all summer they won't win many games.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:54 pm 
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The strategy is clear as day to me. Recruitment focus early days is on talls. Get the spine sorted first because talls take longer to develop.
And in Year 1 (2017) we play the talls to get games into them and to see which ones are made of the right stuff.
After this year it will be about mids mids mids and mids.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:07 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
this was a subtle form of tanking.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:19 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Bit of a historic night last night. We haven't lost to Richmond by 43 points since 1971.


If I'm reading your point correctly, this should mean that we win the Premiership next year (against Richmond) and then proceed to win the flag in 4 of the following 15 seasons?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:21 pm 
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Wasn't a fan of much last night. Thought the 3rd qtr we played some very nice attacking footy but too many times we flooded.
At one point I saw Levi playing in the goalsquare - which would be a good thing except its was Richmonds bloody goal square!!!!! Why? Makes no sense.



Levi was Kreuzer's ruck partnet. When he was in the Richmond goalsquare he was having a run in the ruck.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:22 pm 
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Just watched the last half. Our turn overs just murdered us. We won't progress far when we just gift the ball back to the opposition. Even from handballs and kicks under no pressure.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:39 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
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I think army may be done now too

It was sad to watch Army . I think a case of one season too many.

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Pretty sad when you have Army in leadership group
Not much for our young player to look up to


Leadership isn't simply being a gun footballer.


He'd be a pretty good example to the young guys I'd have thought.


The way he played last night was terrible surely if you were playing in the same team
With him as a leader you wouldn't be inspired if you go through Armfield,s last 10 games
There is no way he should be in a leadership group or even in the team


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Reassuringly, every time there was a real howler by one of our players they showed Bolton in the coaching box looking like he wanted to murder someone.

Just because his press conferences are all rainbows and puppies doesn't mean players aren't copping a pasting behind closed doors.

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Reassuringly, every time there was a real howler by one of our players they showed Bolton in the coaching box looking like he wanted to murder someone.

Just because his press conferences are all rainbows and puppies doesn't mean players aren't copping a pasting behind closed doors.

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Constructive, direct and personal feedback based on agreed goals will be what players are getting. If they don't have the tools to follow through on that feedback, enjoy the NB's unless of course you are Dale Thomas.

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