Didn't see it, but Grigg has acted like a flog in every game against Carlton.

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I see Simmo settling into a forward pocket in the next season or two. He still has a contribution to make, even at a slightly slower pace.

And thank @#$%&! there's another game tonight. I'm not sure I could handle the Dustin Martin wankathon lasting into next week.

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Wasn't a fan of much last night. Thought the 3rd qtr we played some very nice attacking footy but too many times we flooded.
At one point I saw Levi playing in the goalsquare - which would be a good thing except its was Richmonds bloody goal square!!!!! Why? Makes no sense.

Thomas - ugh. just drop him already. Play a kid instead.

Positives?
SPS looks like a gun but as expected - doesn't have the fitness yet. SOS tried his guts out and kicked a nice couple of goals. Wietering is a gun! Kreuzer's best game in a long time and good to see Murphy back.


Apart from that........ hmm, gonna be a long year.

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EFA

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I'd go as far to venture in every game with

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Typical Tiges, wasn't impressed.

For the blue boys, what else could we expect - based on the selections.

- Marchbank looks good, but with obvious flaws to iron out. Hopefully he is not Bower vers. 2
- Pickett has x factor, but there were long periods where I forgot he was playing..
- SPS - looks ok considering. Best not to put too much pressure on him too soon.
- C Curnow - definitely looked lost. Not sure if he would be better going back to 2s or not...
- Plowman had good and bad moments, but looks to be improving in consistency
- Silvagni doesn't ever put in any half-arsed efforts. Hopefully he can bulk and strengthen his kicking from further out.
- McCreadie - definitely looks like he has something to work with

Overall quite pleased with the young players.

As for the more senior boys...
- Murph made a statement - well done.
- Docherty - busted his gut. Struggled to stem the flow

- Thomas - we need to make a statement. Do NOT give him enough games to exercise whatever trigger clauses he has unless he is in the top 5 players consistently. He does not deserve to be in the 22, let alone get a contract extension. Enough is enough

-Gibbs - Everyone I talk to seems to be happy with his performance. Really?? We knocked back a trade to Adelaide because we thought this guy is worth multiple 1st rounders, but we are satisfied when he dishes up average/middle of the road/serviceable games? He should be ripping the game apart. Sick of the low expectations he sets himself.

- Kreuzer - great. now play like that every game. Or at least every 3rd game!!. Fingers crossed this is the year he comes good again.

Cripps - Don't play him if he's not at least close to full fitness. Not worth it.

I think Grigg just won the Coleman.

What a guy.

I miss him dearly

It's going to be a long year.
Our defense has more holes than an army mozzie net.
Our mids have no pace.
Our forwards are so bad we have to put our best defender down front to kick goals.

Our skill levels were a fair way off.
I posted elsewhere that if the trend of AFL is towards a footrace and away from a stoppage-based game we are in a lot of trouble. Well it looks like teams are going for small mids and forwards who can break the lines and apply pressure.

We need to get some speed on the park as soon as next week.

Positives:
Marchbank
Weitering up forward
We won a quarter
No injuries as far as I know.

If I were picking next week's team I would drop Thomas (permanently), White, (although I like his efforts), Casboult (didn't do enough across the four quaters). I would bring in Buckley, Cunningham and BB. Keep the other kids in and tell them all to run and carry. When we kick long, at least two of them to be under the pack. The defence I would leave alone apart from White. I think they will go OK in time. Rowe can share the rucking off the bench with spells at CHB.

Rance punched Weitering in the kidneys at their first contest. It was pretty subtle and only traveled a couple of inches but it hit the mark.

We are now averaging 118 points against for 2017. That has to change.

Martin is a bogan but he knows how to play footy.
Their two best small forwards were pick 47 and a rookie.

It's going to be a long year.

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Terrible post. Cassbolt played up the ground and Weitering played deeper. Rance never plays up the ground. Simple as that. Way to try to make 2+2=8

That's what I thought too, we even cut them open a few times. Lots of players front running. If they get pressured into a turn over they will get slaughtered by better teams.

To be fair they will have to employ different tactics against better teams also.

Going to be a long long year but it's all a matter of your perspective as to if you'll enjoy it or not.

I don't enjoy seeing us get mauled but when we show some fight and going down swinging with the kids showing a bit, I'll be pretty pleased.

Injury to Murphy, gibbs, Kruezer, Cripps or Weitering will be catastrophic however.

JW is going to be the best KPP pick #1 since reidwolt.

Seriously good, I prefer him forward to be honest. Reminds me of Pavlich.

Agree with this but did we all officially give up on Buckley while I wasn't looking?

That game was a bit of a wake up call but in hindsight that was always going to happen with so many youngsters in the team. The good thing was the youngsters didn't chuck in the towel. What's also pleasing is you can see the youngsters have talent, more than a lot of our older players, of whom the likes of Thomas, Armfield, Casboult, Curnow and White surely must be close to being dropped based on their efforts last night. All of these guys looked terrible in the pre-season games and nothing changed last night. We won't be a decent side until we no longer have these types in our side.

Of the youngsters, Weitering, Marchbank, Samo, Macreadie and Silvagni all looked good. Pickett would want to find more of the ball next week if he gets another run in the senior side. He was hardly sighted. Charlie didn't do much but I think he had a difficult role as it appeared he was running in the midfield and changing up forward so a fairly challenging role for a young player I'd have thought. His class is clear though.

The club have consistently said all summer that 2017 might be a tough year and I can see why they are saying this. It will be a bit like when Buddy and Roughead first played for Hawthorn. The young Hawks side was smashed week in week out that year and I think 2017 will be similar for Carlton. But it is a necessity to get games into the young talent, so it is the difficult year we have to have.

You are absolutely correct.
I guess Rowe got to the right position but obviously had pre-determined to punch or was just expecting other hands would be up there with him. And Thomas - also correct. Although I did also see him launch a few good passes to advantage as well. But either way, I wouldn't be surprised if neither of them are in our starting line-up by the end of the year, if not sooner.

I see some people discussing Casboult.

His first half was terrible. early in the game in the space of about 1 minute he put in a pathetic effort at ground level around the wing and then moments later was bumped out of a rucking contest.

He offers very little outside of clunking a few contested marks and hopefully kicking straight.

At some stage McKay needs to take his spot.

Casboult was ok but didn't really show any hunger. A bit concerning seeing this could be his last year of AFL...

Don't want to rob him of his certain Brownlow. He's been the standout player all season after all.
I mean they should probably get his dad back on the country for the big night.

Marchbank showed more last night that bower did in he's entire career.

Grigg was an Essendon* supporter growing up - would you expect anything less than a total wanker?

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I wasn't emotionally invested, well nothing like my 2 boys, and was pleased with many aspects of our game.
I thought turnovers killed us, and the umpires did us no favours.

Kreuzers best game for years.
Gibbs and Cripps worked hard to win ball but didn'thave players running past or behind for the handball and had to do too much on their own.
Tigers seemed to swamp us in the middle.
Murphy good, but I wish he would break lines and hit up players on the chest with bullet passes instead of lobs.
Thought E. Curnow went missing.

Rowe was solid and met everything he coulds a defender, but I wish he'd take some marks instead of punching every time. Show some poise.
Marchbank and Plowman did some amazingly freakish things. Really impressed. Everyone makes mistakes.
No run and carry from the backline.
Docherty and Simpson must have had their hands full because they weren't able to give a running option.
Need to add speed to backline

Pickett and SPS showed glimpses.
Macreadie shows no fear.

Forward line didn't apply pressure, nor kept the ball in the forwardline.
Wright did well, but expected a few more possessions from him.
SOS's easy misses were costly early in the game.
Charlie looked great at training, snapping from everywhere with an aura of confidence. This game brought his ego back to earth.

Weitering is a star

Casboult tried hard but was terrible in the first half. Expected more from him.
Thomas is finished. if he's selected next week its because....can't think of anything.
White isn't in form either.

Smedts OK, but borderline 22 after that showing.
Armfield very disappointing.

Really enjoyed the fightback in t 3rd led by Cripps. He was gut running and totally committed to winning every ball.

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