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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:08 am 
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We're obviously going to struggle to kick scores this year, but finally some hope.

We could build a forward line around Weitering and Pickett.
SOJ doesn't find enough ball. But he makes fantastic decisions when he does. So that makes 3.
Charlie's talent makes 4.

Hopefully in a year or 2, Harry will make 5.

And I guess we'll just have to 'make do' with others like Wright or Armfield in the meantime. Obvious need for some classy small/mid-size forwards. I don't think Lamb is going to make it. Sumner still a chance. LeBois an outside chance.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:14 am 
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Stefchook wrote:
We're obviously going to struggle to kick scores this year, but finally some hope.

We could build a forward line around Weitering and Pickett.
SOJ doesn't find enough ball. But he makes fantastic decisions when he does. So that makes 3.
Charlie's talent makes 4.

Hopefully in a year or 2, Harry will make 5.

And I guess we'll just have to 'make do' with others like Wright or Armfield in the meantime. Obvious need for some classy small/mid-size forwards. I don't think Lamb is going to make it. Sumner still a chance. LeBois an outside chance.



There is a little guy called LeBois that goes alright too.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:25 am 
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Yeah, he looked promising in the first game. Just assuming he went as a rookie for a good reason.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:54 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:01 pm 
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Now we need the makings of a midfield.

We currently have 3 really good players, a good tagger then a bunch of VFL guys.

Hope SPS and Fisher can contribute soon


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:33 pm 
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Now we need the makings of a midfield.

We currently have 3 really good players, a good tagger then a bunch of VFL guys.

Hope SPS and Fisher can contribute soon


Again with this Hope guy?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:30 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
We're obviously going to struggle to kick scores this year, but finally some hope.

We could build a forward line around Weitering and Pickett.
SOJ doesn't find enough ball. But he makes fantastic decisions when he does. So that makes 3.
Charlie's talent makes 4.

Hopefully in a year or 2, Harry will make 5.

And I guess we'll just have to 'make do' with others like Wright or Armfield in the meantime. Obvious need for some classy small/mid-size forwards. I don't think Lamb is going to make it. Sumner still a chance. LeBois an outside chance.


Agree, but I'd add Jaksch, Les Bois and a stint from Kreuzer to shore it all up all can kick goals.
Mackay will come good he needs a little longer.

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Jaksch? As in the guy who has shown nothing at all to date? That Jaksch?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:21 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
We're obviously going to struggle to kick scores this year, but finally some hope.

We could build a forward line around Weitering and Pickett.
SOJ doesn't find enough ball. But he makes fantastic decisions when he does. So that makes 3.
Charlie's talent makes 4.

Hopefully in a year or 2, Harry will make 5.

And I guess we'll just have to 'make do' with others like Wright or Armfield in the meantime. Obvious need for some classy small/mid-size forwards. I don't think Lamb is going to make it. Sumner still a chance. LeBois an outside chance.

Refreshing our midfield is critical in this development as well.

The building blocks are there for a very good forward line in the next couple of years, but without a midfield capable of properly delivering the ball to their advantage, their potential will never be realised and Harry, SOJ, Charlie etc may share the fate of so many "false Fev's" that have come along since.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:42 am 
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Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:23 am 
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Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.

Agree with this
1 goal forward whilst McCarthy kicked 6.
I have sat and watched Gibbs who should have been our general down back fluff around in the midfield for years

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:29 am 
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Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.


So our best forward should play in the backline?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:34 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.


So our best forward should play in the backline?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:52 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.

Agree with this
1 goal forward whilst McCarthy kicked 6.
I have sat and watched Gibbs who should have been our general down back fluff around in the midfield for years

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Who's our McCarthy? He doesn't exist

Gibbs general down back? Is that you Ratts?

Our defense is the least of our issues

We have basically no midfield and you want to take our best/2nd best one out of there?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:00 am 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.

Agree with this
1 goal forward whilst McCarthy kicked 6.
I have sat and watched Gibbs who should have been our general down back fluff around in the midfield for years

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Who's our McCarthy? He doesn't exist

Gibbs general down back? Is that you Ratts?

Our defense is the least of our issues

We have basically no midfield and you want to take our best/2nd best one out of there?

You find one.
When your side is weak you players should be playing to their strengths not playing in an area because we lack something there.
We have been plugging holes for years and missing out on seeing players develop to their strengths.
Kruezer as a forward
Gibbs in the middle
Murphy as a forward
Touhy as a back pocket
Henderson as forward
Now Weiters forward.
If you have a player that is 9 out 10 in a position you play them there . You don't play them where they are 6 out 10


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:52 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.


So our best forward should play in the backline?


We're in a development period for the next two seasons - minimum. Let your future 10 year defender play to his strengths and learn the trade. It's his second year. Don't make him your number one forward target. That's a ridiculous pressure to place on him. He's 19.

If you want a stop-gap solution while McKay develops then put Rowe up there. Maybe he can kick a goal rather than costing us them.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:29 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Adam Chatfield wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.

Agree with this
1 goal forward whilst McCarthy kicked 6.
I have sat and watched Gibbs who should have been our general down back fluff around in the midfield for years

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Who's our McCarthy? He doesn't exist

Gibbs general down back? Is that you Ratts?

Our defense is the least of our issues

We have basically no midfield and you want to take our best/2nd best one out of there?

You find one.
When your side is weak you players should be playing to their strengths not playing in an area because we lack something there.
We have been plugging holes for years and missing out on seeing players develop to their strengths.
Kruezer as a forward
Gibbs in the middle
Murphy as a forward
Touhy as a back pocket
Henderson as forward
Now Weiters forward.
If you have a player that is 9 out 10 in a position you play them there . You don't play them where they are 6 out 10


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I understand your logic but it's not like if he plays forward a lot this year he can never play in defense again.

I dare say he won't play up forward all the time. Ideally It would be a mix of Charlie McKay sos, with Pickett and Le bois as crumbing forwards


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:09 pm 
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Franc de Borges wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.


So our best forward should play in the backline?


We're in a development period for the next two seasons - minimum. Let your future 10 year defender play to his strengths and learn the trade. It's his second year. Don't make him your number one forward target. That's a ridiculous pressure to place on him. He's 19. If you want a stop-gap solution while McKay develops then put Rowe up there. Maybe he can kick a goal rather than costing us them.


I don't want a stop-gap. I've seen enough already. Weitering was a gun forward at junior level, before he played in defence at TAC Cup level. And I've seen enough at senior level. He's already our best forward. I thought he was fantastic against Freo. I'm convinced he could be an elite tall forward. Obviously he could also be an elite defender. But forwards are much harder to find then defenders. We've found a forward. I want him to play there for the next 15 years.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:37 am 
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Stefchook wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Franc de Borges wrote:
Our best defender isn't going to be playing in the forward line.


So our best forward should play in the backline?


We're in a development period for the next two seasons - minimum. Let your future 10 year defender play to his strengths and learn the trade. It's his second year. Don't make him your number one forward target. That's a ridiculous pressure to place on him. He's 19. If you want a stop-gap solution while McKay develops then put Rowe up there. Maybe he can kick a goal rather than costing us them.


I don't want a stop-gap. I've seen enough already. Weitering was a gun forward at junior level, before he played in defence at TAC Cup level. And I've seen enough at senior level. He's already our best forward. I thought he was fantastic against Freo. I'm convinced he could be an elite tall forward. Obviously he could also be an elite defender. But forwards are much harder to find then defenders. We've found a forward. I want him to play there for the next 15 years.


Prepare to be disappointed.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:59 am 
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Apparently he played forward on Friday in the intraclub.


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