Do I have to agree with Smith on capital punishment or Moroccan food or the most convenient time to collect the mail or anything else because I agree with him on Essendon*?

I've read some seriously silly things on this site but I think we have a new winner...

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to suggest that smith is not in the real world is a nonsense - just a tactic to discredit his opinion

do we agree on that point?

The real stuff will happen 2019 onwards , huge patience is need meanwhile, it's the bitter incompetence of the past that's forcing Bolton's hand there's no other choice.
We need to take plenty of bad medicine before we see the rainbow again.

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22 years into a 66 year rebuild.

RIP.

Just for some context...

Alastair Clarkson was appointed 2005.
Prior to his arrival, they had drafted Roughead, Franklin & Lewis in a single draft - i.e. nothing to do with Clarkson.
In his first trading period, the Hawks picked Beau Dowler, Beau Muston, Xavier Ellis & Travis Tuck as well as Birchall, & Max Bailey in their first 6 picks.
In 2006, they stuffed their trading again by picking Mitch Thorp, ahead of Joel Selwood! And Brent Renouf.
Also in 2006, he famously left a hapless Zac Dawson on Anthony Rocca while he helped himself to 8 goals (or maybe 6)?

He turned out to be an amazing coach, possibly the best ever AFL coach.
He never would have lasted at a club like Carlton with our spoilt-brat whinging and looking for flaws prematurely.

By anyone's standard we did better than expected last year.
Since Bolton arrived, we have done better than Clarkson in his first two drafts.
And we are coming from further back in terms of list.
Culturally, Hawthorn we also a shambles at the time.

He may not turn out to be another Clarkson but I'll bet he knows at least as much about current football and our team in particular than at least 95% of us on TC and 99% of football commentators (many of whom just aim to court controversy). I am sure he is just as aware of the flaws, gaps and disappointments. Give the guy a chance to build it right for a change.

...WHAT??

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Holy shit. He's getting worse

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I like that Sinners.

Either way we are still only one third of the way through the rebuild.

Lol - I'll pay that one!

It's just that I'm seriously thinking I'll never see number 17 in my lifetime....

Great post. Summed up things perfectly.

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I agree with Smith on Essendon* therefore I must agree with Smith on everything...wow! Thems crazy words right there! Remind me never to agree with you on ANYTHING!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

What a nothing piece.

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Nice one 17th. Not being picky however I'm pretty sure Clarko was appointed late 2004 & would've potentially had a fair say as to who to draft etc.....come on down Roughy et al!!

Yep.

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One of the alltime greatest posts on here

Wtf is Smith on about? Our list is almost laughably awful. It's a miracle we won 7 games last year really.

Bolton may never achieve anything but to think we should be sacking him now or even this season, unless their it's been found out he is a Mark Neeld style knob and we are losing every game by 100 points.

The new game plan of move it quick via handball is a concern though. Especially trying to do it with such a poor side. I can understand we need to learn to attack, but we could be in for a massive world of hurt while it's being developed.

I actually think we will have a really bad year, but with all/most of the deadwood gone after this season, we will begin to see the fruits of our labour in 2018.

I know it sucks being crap for so long, but that's what happens when you recruit awfully for a long period of time

Well said.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

I"d love to agree with you on this, but apparently given I may have disagreed with you on something once in the past, this is an impossibility...

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY