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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:26 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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Wasn't brilliant today and will be a long season but some green shoots
Marchbank looks a real player Pickett looked promising in a few cameos

Macredie Williamson and Cunnigham McKay all showed snippets

To win any game our senior good players as opposed to White and Rowe will need to perform strongly
Gibbs murph Cripps docherty and Simpson

Absolutely no forward line without Levi and Kreuz was missed

Disappointed that Jaksch and sumner didn't get a shot at it today

Disappointed graham jones Bokehurst
Thomas really shouldn't play round one
Aints had a very strong team in compared to us so all ain't lost


Still are an outside chance to beat the Tigers first round but kicking goals will be a problem


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:26 pm 
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Wasn't brilliant today and will be a long season but some green shoots
Marchbank looks a real player Pickett looked promising in a few cameos

Macredie Williamson and Cunnigham McKay all showed snippets

To win any game our senior good players as opposed to White and Rowe will need to perform strongly
Gibbs murph Cripps docherty and Simpson

Absolutely no forward line without Levi and Kreuz was missed

Disappointed that Jaksch and sumner didn't get a shot at it today

Disappointed graham jones Bokehurst
Thomas really shouldn't play round one
Aints had a very strong team in compared to us so all ain't lost


Still are an outside chance to beat the Tigers first round but kicking goals will be a problem


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:28 pm 
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No real surprise. Saw this coming.

Pros:
Charlie Curnow, Cuningham and MacReadie. MacReadie already looks he's surpassed Plowman.
Few nice glimpses from Pickett.

Cons:
Our top secret game plan of handballing to a player ahead of the play. I know we're trying to be more offensive, but just can't see handballing through traffic suits our list. We're not quick enough or skilful enough. And our midfield midgets simply can't absorb tackles and then release to the spare player. The great irony is that despite all the hush-hush opposition players (like Armitage) after 1 week had it sorted out and could explain what we would try and do. Looks like the players have already started to lose confidence in the plan. Not a good sign at all. If we persist with this approach, it's going to drive the few supporters still watching up the wall.
The other tactical ploy of being outnumbered in defence. Not quite as bad as last week, but still an issue.
Absolutely butchered the ball when in space, especially going into our forward line.
Very few Carlton supporters at our 'home' game. Not particularly surprising given the 'closed doors' over summer, and the team we actually picked.
The telecast. Basically it was the St Kilda show. With Nicky Dal Santo chatting to his ex-teammates. And having to endure a St Kilda playing rabbitting on through the whole 3rd quarter. Usually this opportunity is given to a player from the home team. But either Fox decided to make an exception on behalf of St Kilda. Or perhaps even more likely, the club wasn't willing to co-operate and provide a player to do it.
The umpiring was putrid. :banghead: How many St Kilda goals were the direct result of umpire intervention? We're bad enough not to have to compete against the umpires as well.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:34 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
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Our top secret game plan of handballing to a player ahead of the play. I know we're trying to be more offensive, but just can't see handballing through traffic suits our list. ....



I assume Boltons thinking is movement will become more cleaner and effective with more repetition and experience.

Polson and Cuningham in particular will get better as they get used to the tempo...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:35 pm 
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Yeah,well,against the Dees it was like men against boys.Unfortunaly today was worse.It was like men against kindergarten kids.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:36 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
No real surprise. Saw this coming.

Pros:
Charlie Curnow, Cuningham and MacReadie. MacReadie already looks he's surpassed Plowman.
Few nice glimpses from Pickett.

Cons:
Our top secret game plan of handballing to a player ahead of the play. I know we're trying to be more offensive, but just can't see handballing through traffic suits our list. We're not quick enough or skilful enough. And our midfield midgets simply can't absorb tackles and then release to the spare player. The great irony is that despite all the hush-hush opposition players (like Armitage) after 1 week had it sorted out and could explain what we would try and do. Looks like the players have already started to lose confidence in the plan. Not a good sign at all. If we persist with this approach, it's going to drive the few supporters still watching up the wall.
The other tactical ploy of being outnumbered in defence. Not quite as bad as last week, but still an issue.
Absolutely butchered the ball when in space, especially going into our forward line.
Very few Carlton supporters at our 'home' game. Not particularly surprising given the 'closed doors' over summer, and the team we actually picked.
The telecast. Basically it was the St Kilda show. With Nicky Dal Santo chatting to his ex-teammates. And having to endure a St Kilda playing rabbitting on through the whole 3rd quarter. Usually this opportunity is given to a player from the home team. But either Fox decided to make an exception on behalf of St Kilda. Or perhaps even more likely, the club wasn't willing to co-operate and provide a player to do it.
The umpiring was putrid. :banghead: How many St Kilda goals were the direct result of Carlton players error? We're bad enough not to have to compete against the umpires as well.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:36 pm 
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frank, history shows there's no forward line with Levi either


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:39 pm 
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I actually thought our intensity was better than last week's.
Cripps looked very, very short of a gallop. Hard to believe he's going to be really ready for the start of the year, although he'll obviously play.
Can we give up now on trying to play Plowman as a medium defender?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:04 pm 
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Just saw Liam jones's hanger. One of his better chest marks.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:13 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
frank, history shows there's no forward line with Levi either



No forward line will ever function when the ball movement into the 50 is dreadful. A gun player would struggle on our forward line.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:16 pm 
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jim wrote:
Rexy wrote:
frank, history shows there's no forward line with Levi either



No forward line will ever function when the ball movement into the 50 is dreadful. A gun player would struggle on our forward line.


Weitering goes well up forward


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Presser

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017- ... don-bolton

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:18 pm 
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Effes wrote:


content unavailable ...?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:21 pm 
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But didn't Rexy we have that gun Ruckman and forward Rowe playing today
Looked immeasurably better than Levi
I DONT THINK SO
At least Casboult Kicked 2 last week Rowe with his mate White after so many senior games still has the awareness of Kozi without his skill
At least Casboult has some ruck nous Rowe has none

This time next year hopefully no white no Rowe and no Thomas


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:23 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
But didn't Rexy we have that gun Ruckman and forward Rowe playing today
Looked immeasurably better than Levi
I DONT THINK SO
At least Casboult Kicked 2 last week Rowe with his mate White after so many senior games still has the awareness of Kozi without his skill
At least Casboult has some ruck nous Rowe has none

This time next year hopefully no white no Rowe and no Thomas


:lol:

c'mon frank I did concede they were both no good before today


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:29 pm 
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Yes you did Rexy :thumbsup:

But did say I suspect tongue in cheek he was our secret weapon :smoking:

You know we take everything literally on this site Rexy

And yes both are ordinary but only Rowe and White and Raymond can make me yell when we are being belted in an inconsequential practice match :donk:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:34 pm 
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I know we are playing a lot of kids, some of whom haven't played an AFL game yet, but am I the only one who thinks its been a pretty flat, uninspiring start to the year? From memory even though we lost games there was a vibrancy to the start of last year. I'm more than a little worried we might get done in Round One. They'll need to be a fairly big uplift from here on. Could be a long year. Maybe it is because this time last year we had a new coach. Maybe the second year was always destined to be harder. Think I have heard that before. And the pundits have hinted towards that.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:36 pm 
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Be patient folks
We are still suffering from the the club's poor off field decisions.
In saying that I reckon Bolton and the McC should make some tough selection calls.

Playing Thomas, white and Rowe in the one side is IMO view pointless.Just play only two of these spuds and develop a kid instead. The other thing the coaching staff need to do is find some way to kick more goals.
There will be a few less wins than last year but we need to play as much youth as possible and get rid of spud as
And don't recruit guys like Palmer and Smedts.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:38 pm 
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Forget the spin and chatter.....4 goals all day is a bloody serious situation....


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:42 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
jim wrote:
Rexy wrote:
frank, history shows there's no forward line with Levi either



No forward line will ever function when the ball movement into the 50 is dreadful. A gun player would struggle on our forward line.


Weitering goes well up forward


Yep, he's probably played about 3 qtrs all up in his time here.

Maybe when he's shifted there but how would he go if he had to put up with it full time.


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