Im not giving any of the above a go - they are all proven failures as a Board
Regarding Judd - the age reports that he did "a deal" - if Judd is getting paid for a Board role- Judd has to go.
If Judd was confident of his abilities he should have put his name up for election by the members- members would respect that - rather than being invited on by the President
Judd is great footballer but that does not translate to a good administrator

Call me pedantic but the role of the Board is not to administer it's to set strategy and provide oversight to Management (administrators). Jude's role as incoming football Director will (should) be to ensure management of the football department is aligned with the strategy determined by the board.

But yeah Judd will be no good at Admin because ummmmm football

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I'm shocked to be sitting here

It was a very disappointing game, no doubt. But I will reserve judgement until at least all the JLT games have been played.

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Carlton - Nothing's changed
I still love you, oh, I still love you
Only slightly, only slightly less
Than I used to, my love

Whoah there!

Melbourne is a team chock full of fantastic players. The only query on them is unknown quality of their coach - but so far, it looks like they have a pretty good game plan. I think they will do better than many people expect. And they are clearly giving everything in these practice matches.
By contrast, our defensive structures looked to be pretty underwhelming.

However, the pre-season's key feature is the lower standards of defensive pressure vs the season proper. That's why teams can perform particularly well during the pre-season but not once the real season begins (e.g. us a few years ago and collingwood last year, IIRC...).

Pre-season is where you look for spots of upside and more or less disregards the negatives (not the coaches but the fans...).
For the coach, I suspect the defensive structures would have fallen well short of what he would have bee teaching them so a good time to redress that. Would expect that to be a bit better against the Saints next week.

Regarding positives, I thought Harry showed some good attitude signs. Marchbank was smooth. Kruezer looked good to me - involved i a lot, took a few marks. Casboult looked in good shape and his kicking action much much better.
Was happily surprised by Fisher (wasn't expecting much).
Kym LeBetts was exciting.
Pickett was good.

Will be interesting to see who gets named this week, and more importantly, the week after....

PS. Yes, we know Weitering is a star in the making and probably better than our other forwards. But, for gods sake, let him become the AFL's premier backman rather than move him forward to plug a temporary hole.
Moving him to the forward line will not suddenly make us a top 8 team; and it doesn't matter whether we finish 11th rather than 12th; or 14th rather than 15th, in 2017.
In the meantime, we would be robbing him of important time to develop his key defensive skills and experience, and rob our own potential forwards of developing their skills.
Sure, swing him forward during the odd match here and there to mix it up for him and the opposition; loosen him up every now and then.
But I think the calls on TC to move him forward are misplaced and potentially v damaging to our long term development.

Agree with this. As long as we're having a conversation about whether include either/or Casboult or Rowe, we're royally [REDACTED].

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Cuningham had a pretty good second half after a quiet first half. he's an interesting one this year, what he does is first class but he does nowhere near enough just yet. Hopefully he's given another full game this weekend to try and build some form.

Casboult was pretty good up the ground. He's obviously not the answer as a FF but when he plays further up the ground he's alright. He and Kreuzer were both good.

Curnow, Gibbs, Murphy, Simpson, Docherty. We know what we're gonna get from them. Once again we saw just how badly we rely on Cripps in the guts though.

Rowe has a big role to play this year in what will most likely be an even younger back line than last year.

Marchbank and Plowman were probably the biggest highlight of the day for us.

Charlie Curnow was good on the ball, he could go a long way to solving our midfield problems if he makes it as a big bodied midfielder but as we saw again in the second half he's also so good when he plays close to goal.

LeBois definitely has something to work with, he's seriously nippy around the packs.

Pickett was good, better than I was expecting. he and Wright should be our small forwards this year.

Harry McKay was still just a bit off the pace and needs a bit more time but the two chase down tackles show he's willing to work.

Kerridge needs a role change. Best bet for him would be to release Ed and do an apprenticeship as our tagger like the role he had against Hawthorn last year. Not classy enough at this stage to be an out and out midfielder but he runs his guts out and gets to a lot of contests.

Looked to me like we treated it like a practice game.

Positives

Not many
Charlie as a midfielder
Glimpses from LeBois and Pickett
Marchbank was extremely solid for a first hit out.
Kreuzer thought he played well one of our better players despite the negative crap on here
Fisher while not a fan of drafting him showed with a bit more size he might be able make it

Negatives
Game plan especially handballing the ball forward 15m to someone who is stationary and gets put under more pressure who then tries the same to eventually turn it over?? How do forwards lead to this???
Rowe has a role to play on the stay at home forwards but gets run ragged by anyone who can move around and run back to goal.
Kicking!! Charlies kicking was very poor he needs to improve this.
Palmer wasn't a fan no matter how cheap we got him did nothing to suggest otherwise.
SOS had a shocker
McKay needs a good run in the VFL to build up his confidence when the season starts.
Thomas looks like a 40yr old fan running around?? Players go past him from behind in a couple of steps.

This place is still a joy.

February .

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Good to see we view this as a development year and have started tanking before the season started. Better to be up front with these things

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Tanking suggests we're better than we are playing or we're just not trying, I don't think that is the case. We're just not that great, we're inexperienced and developing. We're a couple of years behind Melbourne in our rebuild. You've got be a little patient.

Yes we're certainly 2 to 3 years behind the Demon's development, it was plain to see.
There's plenty of work to be done yet.
The thought of adding a Darcy Fogarty or Jarrod Brander is sublime and makes it all the more bearable.

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Go Blue Boys

murphy, gibbs simpson kruezer kerridge docherty smedts rowe plowman palmer thomas casboult buckley ed curnow white wright gorringe- that is 17/22 that are highly experienced or re-used players that played for carlton

that is not a rebuild

Honest question. Is there anything you actually like about Carlton?

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

No response. What a surprise!

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I support the Navy Blues whatever happens!

Just like adding Murphy, Gibbs and Kruezer made it all bearable?


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Yes, I liked watching Wayne Johnston play....


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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

I think I heard a comentator say on the weekend we have the most players under 21 on a list. I stand to be corrected if that's not the case.

I have no doubt Carlton played bruise free footy on the weekend.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

the entire list of 44 may be and I would need to check, but the above list played and that is not young