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our last 2 drafts appear to be our best for a very long time

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There's a draft in here...!


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Stefchook wrote:
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Sorta men against boys wasnt it.Pushed and shoved us around the packs.Hated how we were bullied.


Cripps will help. But I reckon we'll see a fair bit of that this year. Other than Cripps and Gibbs, we've got a lot of midgets in our midfield mix.



I think we'll see a fair bit of Curnow C in the midfield..
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
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Sorta men against boys wasnt it.Pushed and shoved us around the packs.Hated how we were bullied.................in saying that i believe the Dees and Saints are right on the heels of the Dogs in natural talent.................we just have to find out who knows how to get a kick and who has to be spoonfed.Just not enough blokes who know how to find the footy.....................anyhow,Marchbank was terrific.And i thought Fisher was easily the best of the other newbies...................I thought our older players played OK................it was the next raft coming through who were woeful,and i'll name them...........Buckley-woefull,Silvagni although fairly new was also woefull,Cuningham im sorry to say was also woefull...............Charlie was good.......the other bloke i thought did a fair job was Simon White.Puzzled why he cops so much shit.A good reliable foot soldier.
Hopefully all the newbies wil be better for the run.....................i expect a much better showing against the Saints who are at least the equal to the Dees.

PS................i know its stating the obvious but Petracca is a million dollar player waiting to happen.Gonna be a superstar for the next decade.


murphy, gibbs simpson kruezer kerridge docherty smedts rowe plowman palmer thomas casboult buckley ed curnow white wright gorringe- that is 17/22 that are not "boys" but men

the club spin makes me sick


Mozzie................certainly wasnt men against boys Mozz.What i meant was that it looked that way .They just brushed us aside so easily.


ok mick- but Petracca is a boy in the sense of age (21) and a damn good draft pick who has been developed

the fact that melbourne are setting a standard for watts ( a no 1 pick) by not playing him is another good sign for them - have we ever dropped gibbs or kruezer for a non - standard? Do we have a standard?

we are going to regret not having a dedicated recruiter for the last 2 years of the national draft..its showing now


What are you on about?

Gibbs has been very inconsistent in his career, but his last 2 years have been very good.

Our last 2 years of drafting have been fantastic, as opposed to the previous 10 before that.

Petracca was a top 3 draft pick and was extremely highly touted all through his juniors...you're acting like Carlton passed on him in the draft??

In the past 2 years only, as you mentioned, what drafting mistakes are you referring to??????

Please give me some facts
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Michael Jezz
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I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear
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Rexy
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Michael Jezz wrote:
I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear


No-one's calling for the coaches sakcing... just pointing out the bleeding obvious that yesterdays showing stunk.
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Stefchook
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doofdoof wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Sorta men against boys wasnt it.Pushed and shoved us around the packs.Hated how we were bullied.


Cripps will help. But I reckon we'll see a fair bit of that this year. Other than Cripps and Gibbs, we've got a lot of midgets in our midfield mix.


I think we'll see a fair bit of Curnow C in the midfield..


I agree. I suspect they'll give a lot of opportunities to Smedts as well, because of his extra size.
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Dk
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I think our team balance was an Issue yesterday, we were rotating 5 key defenders at one point yesterday which is ridiculous. Melbourne had a couple key forwards, couple key defenders, 2 rucks and the rest were smalls which they just rotated like crazy. We need a heap more young midfielders, and u could see yesterday how one paced we are, wright, palmer, Gibbs are slow, smedts, kerrdidge, e curnow, have decent pace but are very fumbly. We need some more young midfielders and hopefully round 1 is a much more balanced team. From the 26 we played yesterday I would drop white, Rowe and gorringe with one small to get us down to a 22 for round 1. WE WERE TO TALL
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Rexy
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Dk wrote:
I think our team balance was an Issue yesterday, we were rotating 5 key defenders at one point yesterday which is ridiculous. Melbourne had a couple key forwards, couple key defenders, 2 rucks and the rest were smalls which they just rotated like crazy. We need a heap more young midfielders, and u could see yesterday how one paced we are, wright, palmer, Gibbs are slow, smedts, kerrdidge, e curnow, have decent pace but are very fumbly. We need some more young midfielders and hopefully round 1 is a much more balanced team. From the 26 we played yesterday I would drop white, Rowe and gorringe with one small to get us down to a 22 for round 1. WE WERE TO TALL


Rowe is a better forward/relief ruck than Casboult.
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frank dardew
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Sorry Rexy can't agree with ya
Rowe has little or no clue about rucking Casboult has some
Casboult not great as a forward and obviously kicking diabolical but Rowe ain't nearly as good a mark
and isn't as good decision maker which doesn't say a lot because Casboult isn't great either
Both are fairly limited footballers but Casboult is a better forward than Rowe
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Rexy
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frank dardew wrote:
Sorry Rexy can't agree with ya
Rowe has little or no clue about rucking Casboult has some
Casboult not great as a forward and obviously kicking diabolical but Rowe ain't nearly as good a mark
and isn't as good decision maker which doesn't say a lot because Casboult isn't great either
Both are fairly limited footballers but Casboult is a better forward than Rowe


You overrate Casboults marking. He drops a heap of them, and is shocking at ground level, agility terrible.
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doofdoof
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Rexy wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear


No-one's calling for the coaches sakcing... just pointing out the bleeding obvious that yesterdays showing stunk.


yep and there will be plenty of more stinkers

you get that when you play 9 guys under 20 years of age & 12 guys who haven't even cracked 40 games of AFL yet
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frank dardew
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Hi Rexy agree he drops too many but still will be a mile ahead of Rowe in contested marking
Agility of both like turning the titanic
At centre bounce Casboult is considerably better
Decision making of both leaves a lot to be desired
I suppose Rexy the fact that both continue to get regular games is the reason why we are near the bottom every year :thumbsup:

Let's see how both go this year and then we can judge.
Both are out of contract at the end of the year

I reckon at the trade table clubs would be more inclined to give us something better for Casboult than Rowe but obviously that's my view
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Michael Jezz wrote:
I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear

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Mosquito Fleet
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frank dardew wrote:
Sorry Rexy can't agree with ya
Rowe has little or no clue about rucking Casboult has some
Casboult not great as a forward and obviously kicking diabolical but Rowe ain't nearly as good a mark
and isn't as good decision maker which doesn't say a lot because Casboult isn't great either
Both are fairly limited footballers but Casboult is a better forward than Rowe


caboult is crap
rowe is crap
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Mosquito Fleet
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Michael Jezz wrote:
I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear


the board is the same

Mr Gleeson (10 years 6 months)
Mr Clarke (9 years 9 months)
Mr Fried (9 years 11 months)
Mr LoGiudice (6 years 6 months) and
Mrs Pratt (5 years and 7 months),
Mr Sayers (4 years) and
Mr Mathieson (4 years).
Ms Jenkins 1 year 1 month

there is your board...there is no "whole of club reset"

pratts and mathiesons appointed the judge as the president
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Achilles' tendon injury would be all she wrote for the year you'd think.
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Yesterday was a poor reflection on Bolten and the coaching staff.

We have a month before Round 1, but a 2nd year coach should have had a side better prepared than that.

We looked as like we turned up the week before for training. Let's just hope it was the end of a high workload and they were flat.

Let's see how he has them prepared next week

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Michael Jezz
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Blue Vain wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear

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I respect your honesty and self diagnosis
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Michael Jezz
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I can already see the idiots on here calling for the coach and an already new board 23 games into an 88 game rebuild. Success is not linear


the board is the same

Mr Gleeson (10 years 6 months)

Its half the size a different president. Judds in and gleesons out. They have wrung all the changes. Give them a go. This is 4 years minimum
Mr Clarke (9 years 9 months)
Mr Fried (9 years 11 months)
Mr LoGiudice (6 years 6 months) and
Mrs Pratt (5 years and 7 months),
Mr Sayers (4 years) and
Mr Mathieson (4 years).
Ms Jenkins 1 year 1 month

there is your board...there is no "whole of club reset"

pratts and mathiesons appointed the judge as the president
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