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 Post subject: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:40 pm 
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http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-1 ... trade-wrap
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Bryce Gibbs will also remain at the Blues, after the Club could not reach an agreement with Adelaide.

The Club had maintained that due to Bryce’s position as a contracted player and his overall value to the football club, Adelaide would have to provide equitable compensation, which it was unable to do.

Bryce has upheld the utmost professionalism since Adelaide disclosed its interest in obtaining him.


Subtle, but makes it clear who dun [REDACTED] up :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:35 pm 
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anyone know where Byrne is up to with recovery. (1-2 weeks is not a valid answer!)


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:36 pm 
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Plowman Weitering Marchbank
Docherty Rowe Simpson
Curnow Cripps Palmer
Kerridge C.Curnow Silvagni
Sumner Casboult Wright
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Int: Thomas Byrne McKay Armfield


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:50 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
Plowman Weitering Marchbank
Docherty Rowe Simpson
Curnow Cripps Palmer
Kerridge C.Curnow Silvagni
Sumner Casboult Wright
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Int: Thomas Byrne McKay Armfield



Buckly not up to it?
If we had plow, weltering and marchbank - is that tall enough that we can replace rowe with someone more mobile?

e.g.
Byrne Weitering Plow
Simmo, Marchbank, Doc (or maybe kerridge and put doc on the wing?)


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 Post subject: Our best 22?
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Plowman Weitering Docherty
Byrne Marchbank Simpson
Smedts Gibbs Cuningham
Murphy CCurnow Sumner
Wright McKay Silvagni

Phillips ECurnow Cripps

Kreuzer Jaksch Buckley Pickett


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:03 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Plowman Weitering Docherty
Byrne Marchbank Simpson
Smedts Gibbs Cuningham
Murphy CCurnow Sumner
Wright McKay Silvagni

Phillips ECurnow Cripps

Kreuzer Jaksch Buckley Pickett


Good team Rexy.

Id keep Jaksch out and play a running player that can apply heaps of pressure. Maybe Dennis.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:18 pm 
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Docherty Marchbank Plowman
Pickett Weitering Smedts
Thomas Cripps Palmer
Lamb Curnow Sumner
Pick five McKay Jaksch
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Int: Everitt Cunningham Boekhorst Gorringe

In before the media talk about all of the first round picks that we have on our list :smile:


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:16 pm 
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Byrne Marchbank Plowman
Docherty Weitering Simpson
Curnow Cripps Cuningham
Palmer McKay Smedts
Silvagni Curnow Casboult
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Sumner Kerridge Boekhorst Pickett

I realize that won't actually be our best 22 though. Byrne won't be ready round 1. I'd expect Rowe to play regularly, Wright also. They've earned that right based on form this year. I'd personally prefer to get games into younger guys though. White, Thomas and Phillips also likely to play a lot of games and pick 5 could be a best 22 player from the get-go.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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Kouta wrote:
Docherty Marchbank Plowman
Pickett Weitering Smedts
Thomas Cripps Palmer
Lamb Curnow Sumner
Pick five McKay Jaksch
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Int: Everitt Cunningham Boekhorst Gorringe

In before the media talk about all of the first round picks that we have on our list :smile:

I think pick five is too tall to play HFF. More suited to CHB.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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B: Plowman Rowe Marchbank

HB: Simpson Weitering Docherty

C: Kerridge Gibbs Palmer

HF: Silvagni Casboult Armfield

F: Pickett McKay Wright

Foll: Kruezer Cripps Murphy

I/C: E.Curnow C.Curnow Phillips Pick 5

Emerg (from): Smedts Everitt Thomas Lamb White Everitt Graham Cunningham

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:13 am 
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All good teams need a balance obviously but I would like Cunningham to get early go in the firsts thought he looked promising at the back end of last year

Jack and Curnow should also play

Back line Marchbank Weitering Plowman and Docherty should play as many games together as possible

Hopefully McKay and Pickett will push for selection


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:26 pm 
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If we can get away with playing a smaller onball type in any position we should.
It is all about pressure and gaining ground. The dogs showed the way in the finals.
The only way we should play Casboult is if he is second ruck and one of Phillips or Kruezer don't play.
Daisy only plays if he is 100% fit and is in form with his pressure acts and no turnovers.
Pressure Pressure Pressure.

Plowman Weitering Docherty
Byrne Marchbank Simpson
Smedts Gibbs Cuningham
Murphy CCurnow Sumner
Wright McKay Silvagni

Phillips ECurnow Cripps

Kreuzer Armfield Buckley Pickett/Boekhorst/pick 5/ come from nowhere rookie /Lambda


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:43 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
All good teams need a balance obviously but I would like Cunningham to get early go in the firsts thought he looked promising at the back end of last year

Jack and Curnow should also play

Back line Marchbank Weitering Plowman and Docherty should play as many games together as possible

Hopefully McKay and Pickett will push for selection


I agree. Pretty sure Cuningham will get early dibs on a spot, along with our no.5 pick midfielder. Same with Weitering, Curnow and SOJ from last year's draft. And same with Plowman and Marchbank from GWS.

The interesting one for me is McKay. Clearly the club has very high hopes for him. And so you'd think he'd get plenty of chances next year. But if I had to take a guess, I think he'll be eased in after the (intensity of the) start to the year.

Exciting to think we'll have some genuinely exciting young talent next year (in McKay and Pickett) who are probably not guaranteed a game. It's been a while ...


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:12 pm 
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2017

Buckley Rowe Plowman
Docherty Marchbank Weitering Simpson
Kerridge Cripps Palmer
Silvagni Curnow Wright
Casboult McKay
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy
Curnow Pick 5 Thomas/Boekhorst/Armfield/Cuningham

2018

Buckley JGM Plowman
Docherty Marchbank Weitering Byrne
Kerridge Cripps Cuningham
Silvagni Curnow Wright
Casboult McKay
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy
Curnow 2016 1st 2017 1st Pickett/Boekhorst


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:44 pm 
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I think one of marchbank, plowman or weitering will be tried forward
we need rowe's height and he has been doing a satisfactory job just as a defender (meaning just a stopper ala lonegan)
even if they are just rotating or used as swingmen at particular situations with each other it will be a huge benefit for their experience along with our improvement and security in the long run
they are all young but are at a stage when their knowledge, awareness and response should be tested and improved


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:55 pm 
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Charlie Curnow is a lump of a kid and like his brother is a natural runner. Came top 3 in our first pre-season time trial behind Ed and Kerridge if I recall correctly. I really think we should try him in the midfield.

If we nab Fyfe next year, we put Cripps, Curnow and Fyfe in the middle and rotate them around with one resting up forward to reduce use of bench. That three will be a nightmare for other clubs to match up on. McKay, Jack S and Ben S will round out our tall forwards and we have the likes of Pickett and Sumner snapping at their heels.

Leave the backline as-is: Weiters, Marchbank, Plowman, Docherty, Byrne and a "guerilla stopper" like Rowe/JGM. That'll solidify in the next few years and do very, very well.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:57 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Byrne Marchbank Plowman
Docherty Weitering Simpson
Curnow Cripps Cuningham
Palmer McKay Smedts
Silvagni Curnow Casboult
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Sumner Kerridge Boekhorst Pickett

I realize that won't actually be our best 22 though. Byrne won't be ready round 1. I'd expect Rowe to play regularly, Wright also. They've earned that right based on form this year. I'd personally prefer to get games into younger guys though. White, Thomas and Phillips also likely to play a lot of games and pick 5 could be a best 22 player from the get-go.


Don't mind most the team. Bolton did say at season's end that we will be focusing on more offence and run given we have settled our defensive structure so I would make sure our side has plenty of run and speed. Hence I'd play Buckley and Armfield too. After a pre-season to build up further i'd be happy to play McKay and C.Curnow in the key positions as long as Casboult is 2nd ruck so he can take the physical heat of the defence given he'll be often forward. If we move to a more offensing running style of game it'll be easier for our forwards


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:17 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Kouta wrote:
Docherty Marchbank Plowman
Pickett Weitering Smedts
Thomas Cripps Palmer
Lamb Curnow Sumner
Pick five McKay Jaksch
Kreuzer Gibbs Murphy

Int: Everitt Cunningham Boekhorst Gorringe

In before the media talk about all of the first round picks that we have on our list :smile:

I think pick five is too tall to play HFF. More suited to CHB.


Nah.

Look at him. He's an inside outside midfielder.
Footballer first with pace.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:22 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
All good teams need a balance obviously but I would like Cunningham to get early go in the firsts thought he looked promising at the back end of last year

Jack and Curnow should also play

Back line Marchbank Weitering Plowman and Docherty should play as many games together as possible

Hopefully McKay and Pickett will push for selection


If Pickett picks up speed and gets a preseason under his belt, or good part of, I reckon he'd be picked round 1.
We haven't had a footballer with that speed since the 3 Amigos, and I think this kid moves faster.

IIRC he's been back running for a while now after foot surgery mid 2016 at the GWS. Maybe jogging, but its been a while.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:33 pm 
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I reckon Palmer will surprise a lot of Carlton supporters.
There's nothing wrong with him.
GWS salary cap and just sheer talent at GWS bumped him out as player 23 or 24.
But then again there were injured players at GWS to create a spot for Palmer, such as Pickett, Ahern, and another 2 top 10ers.
He's a better footballer than Wright Lamb & Sumner and he's in better form than Thomas Boekhurst Graham and Cuningham.

He played in this year's 2016 Preliminary Final.
He is current and he is in form.
IMO best 18

Only reason he will miss the first round is because he's suspended from his antics in the Prelim.

Murphy Cripps Palmer Gibbs Curnow Kerridge with support from Cuningham Boekhurst Pickett for outside speed.
Wright can kick more goals than 2016 along with Silvagni and Curnow.
Good midfield, not injured. That I do know.

Then there's the big fellas to debate...I suppose Kreuzer's acts as an on baller.

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