How will we manufacture a second top 10 pick?

Don't we get Pick 5?

I'd consider trading that for two other 1st round picks but would probably want at least one of those in the top 10.
I think in 2013, Melbourne traded out their pick 2 in return for Dom Tyson (Pick 3 form 2011) and Pick 9 - something like that but with another high pick in place of Tyson...

I wonder how many clubs are chasing Boekhorst?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-eyeing-bomber-laverde-20160913-grfd18.html

NB: I hope BB turns out to be a great player for us; just think that we could have got him with the next pick whilst also grabbing Leverde with pick 20...

Boekhorst... lol. Another draft disaster. Move him on ASAP.

What the last 10-15 years has shown is that if youa re going to be a serious contender, you need to have some 2-3 good years in the draft. ie. almost every pick in a particular draft turns into an A- or B-grader This might be done through luck (eg. father son) or shrewd planning, but inevitably, the more draft picks you have early, the higher the probability you will acheive this.

I think last year will be one of those draft for us, but we need another 2 over the next 3 years. We need to buy into this or next years draft. Given that is supposedly an even draft, I thin it should be this year, but I guess we will see. Now I think you can trade for established players and if you look at what draft they came from, then you can turn an OK draft into one of these great drafts. Important thing is that they are the same age (cohort). Now if you go and select Boekhorst as your first pick then you are already in trouble. So if we do trade for Marchbank, then his cohort are Boekhorst, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, Clem Smith. One has been delisted, one doesn't look like getting a game, and we all know Boekhorst is bust.

This is why we should not even bother with Marchbank. Lets look at the year before Boekhorst. Cripps is the only one left playing- so no capacity to build up that draft. 2012 (probably too far back), but lets look at it. We have Plowman and Nick Graham- the rest have been delisted or traded.

In my opinion, this is one of the main reasons that we should not be looking for trading for players like Marchbank- we should be concentrating on buying into the next two drafts as much as we can. The more high draft picks we have, the more likely we will develop 3-4 players from each draft.

We went from 12th in the AFL last year for disposal efficiency to 6th. Above a number of finals sides.

At least two by my count.

Ranked 17th for goal kicking accuracy only Essendon** had a worse conversation rate

Yep, I agree. Don't get Marchbank because Clem Smith is a dud.

After all Xavier Clarke, Luke Molan, and Richard Cole didn't turn out in the top 11 of the 2001 draft, which is why it's completely mystifying that clubs actually picked Luke Hodge, Chris Judd, Jimmy Bartel, etc. They were just asking for trouble.

At the start of the season ... before getting injured, Boekhorst was one of our best players. He has shown a lot of promise and 2017 will be a big year for him.

At the start of the season ... before getting injured, Boekhorst was one of our best players. He has shown a lot of promise and 2017 will be a big year for him.

Hmmmm I think the first half of this statement is incorrect and fingers crossed for the 2nd part.

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Chelodina, just go back and have a look at the NAB games and the first 3 rounds. IMO he was one of our stand outs early on.
ie exceeded my expectations.

What did he do wrong in that period?

Given the draft is supposedly deep, I would consider trading pick 6 for two picks int he teens (ie 16 and 17 that GWS have).

They have picks in the 30s too, so if they really didn't want to give up picks 16 and 17, the picks 16 and 32 and 34 might work.

perhaps pick 6 for 16, 32 and Marchbank might work if we really really want Marchbank

Remember, GWS will also get an ok pick or two from Freo for McCarthy

Apart from the fact he is a massive cat on the footy field, wouldn't know what a hard ball looks like. At 23 how much more improvement does he have left in him? Personally dont see him developing into a player that would get a game in a top 8 side.

I agree.

Boekhurst was a standout for mine in the preseason right up till he got injured.
His pace and ability to run with the ball and break lines was what we were missing from our team, and he looked like he was going to deliver in 2016.

I think a few posters whose focus more on hair styles, the pick we used to get him, and his laughing with opponents after a loss, are the ones who have lost focus and blamed everything on Boekhurst because after all he was a product of the Malthouse regime.

Interesting how this mature age player seemed to run better when Buttifant left.

I agree he needs to add a bit of aggression and commitment to body clashes to become a more rounded player, and that's up to his coaches to instill that.

I believe Boekhurst can add value to Carlton, in the shape of pace on the outside, which is why he was drafted in the first place, and its pointless focussing on what draft pick he was, or his haircut or his friendships. Football.

How can he be called a bust in seriousness when he's only been playing AFL for 2 seasons?

Look at Lewis Jetta at Sydney. A good player in a great side, a side where he had a role that played to his strengths. Look at Lewis Jetta at West Coast. A player who has ben in and out of the side and unable to make an impact when playing because the personnel around him aren't as good and he can't play the role he excels at.

Boekhorst can play, and in the right environment he can excel. He may not love the rough-and-tumble, but not all footballers do. Look at Jack Darling; he's obviously a tough competitor, but he's copping shit from every angle for shirking the issue in one contest from last weekend, which probably makes for one contest he's shirked all season. Perceptions aren't everything.

And, honestly, if you think running the length of the SCG to lay a tackle and save a certain goal doesn't take guts; a will to win, a belief in yourself and the strength to push on when others give the chase away, then I question what you really know about footy.