That's what coaches are for. Don't waste a list spot on a bloke who in all reality is just there for the money. The only way to improve is recruit young players who are better then what we have got. There is no quick solution or magic potion. It takes time. Just ask Melbourne and St.Kilda supporters. We have over achieved this year. We still have half a team that will be delisted in the next 2-3 years. We will be bottom 4 for at least the next 3 years. When you have players like White, Everitt, Armfield, Rowe and Thomas playing in the seniors and taking a position from a young player, then you know you have a long way to go to rebuild a list. Not 1 of those players would get a game in a top 8 team. Just play the young players and see if they are up to it. I don't care if we get pumped, I just want to see if they are any good.

Tutt is a red for mine and Whiley would be a yellow as I'm not as optimistic about his chances of staying, or not 100% anyway, though I have a gut feeling he will. Buckley might also be one to shop, I'd put him in the yellow bracket.
I don't disagree with Everitt being a yellow, but I would bet my dollars top to bottom he will be put on the trade market and there will be interest in him so I was very close to putting him in the red column.
Foster is probably a red, but one thinks here he'll be re-rookied (don't discount Jones, though in contract, as a yellow).
Armfield was yellow early in the season, but his form in the 2nd half of the year and Walker's retirement has me concluding he'll have one more year on the list.
Gowers or Sheehan? That's a real shame what's happened to Sheehan. I think Gowers will stay, he's going alright by reports in the twos.
And it's great that talks are opening up with Tuohy staying and to add to that, with Walker gone, he's my fancy on being added to the leadership group and rightfully so.
Gone:
Wood (rookie)
Gallucci (rookie)
Dick
Smith
Tutt
Everitt (trade)
Graham
Foster
Walker (retired)
Jamison (retired)
That's 8 on the seniors and 2 on the rookies who I think or know won't be at the Blues next year. Another few would be uncertainties, especially come trade time and perhaps there might be a shock, or two, players traded out.

Agree it's like people think player 2 is only 18yrs old!!!

Player 1: Biological age may be 27 but physical age probably 37

Give me Player 2 any day of the week

Essendon* cheated, simple as that

Keep:

Weitering
Cripps
Docherty
C.Curnow
Silvagni
Plowman
Cuningham
Mckay
Simpson
Tuohy
Byrne
E. Curnow
Murphy

The rest I don't really care.

100% agree, anyone else can be moved on for the right draft pick. Alarming on that list the lack of midfielders and forward pockets/flank players we have for the future

Kreuzer's not the player we all expected he'd become, but we're over sensationalising his demise. He's still clearly our number one ruckman and his body has held together this season.
Take the names away and just compare output:
Player 1: Age 27, 19 games this season, 11 disposals per game, 4 tackles per game, 21 hitouts per game, 6 goals.
Player 2: Age 25, 14 games this season, 7 disposals per game, 2 tackles per game, 17 hitouts per game, 5 goals.

I know which one I'd choose.

I wouldn't be in a hurry to move on guys like Kreuzer and Armfield.

While they lack talent, they don't lack effort. Happy to keep them as depth players in the 2's for another couple of years while we weed out the players who DGAF.

I think people ae being too hard on Boekhurst.
He's missed half the season injured.
He was playing pretty well in a side that was running more in the first part of the year.

It isn't his fault he went at pick 22. He was just sitting watching TV and they called his name out. If he were a rookie pick we'd be rapt.

Honestly, as much as i love Tuohy, if we are offered a first round pick for him, i think we should take it.

CARLTON is confident of keeping out-of-contract spearhead Levi Casboult.

The Blues have offered the key forward a two-year deal as coach Brendon Bolton’s aggressive list rebuild continues.

While the 201cm Casboult, 26, wants to stay at Princes Park, the protracted talks may leave him open to a late poaching raid.

Brisbane Lions had shown interest, but are believed to be looking elsewhere for a top-line forward target.

Casboult returned to strong form on Saturday, bagging four goals in the Blues’ narrow loss to the Lions at the Gabba.

He has booted 17 goals in 18 games this season, third for the Blues behind Matthew Wright and Bryce Gibbs (both 18).

However, Casboult’s accuracy has taken a hit after the departure of goalkicking coach Saverio Rocca at the end of last year.

I could see why Brisbane might want him. He can take some of the heat off Schache until he's ready to take command.

Ideally I'd like him to play that role for Charlie/Harry/SOJ but like most things we're a step behind there. But if it meant getting an extra 2nd rd pick for fresh talent or further trade value I'd ship him off.