If Essendon* are interested, they're welcome to him. Hurley might be a @#$%&! idiot, but he's a better footballer and we could replay them in kind by enticing him across.

Pop him in the backline with Plowman and Marchbank, move Weitering forward and the whole side improves.

I personally are not fussed by his work inside 50. Would like to see him get some goals out the back but our sloppy ,slow movement when we have the break doesn't help and we don't get many of them goals as a team. I am not fussed that he doesn't beat 3 when we bomb to the top of the square. It is that up the wing stuff that kills me. He is one dimensional in that role. The fact that we one of our 22 playing for that one job each game kills me. The hawks don't do it that way. Each player on the ground for them has the job of making sure they don't get out marked. When they dump it down the line it is the job of whoever is there to bring it down. Poppi, Burgoyne, Rioli, the rucks and Gunston all do it. Those players can also do loads of other things on a football ground.
Big Casboult contests marks and takes the odd one. That's it. Being great at contested marks can be a double edge sword. Teammates end up going to him too often. Keeps his numbers up but not great for the team. Buckley worked that out with CLoke. Teams become lazy and predictable.
What would be good to know is the % of marking contests he marks, the % of contests he halves, the % of contests that go back the other way. I have been watching the chains and to me it looks like going to him results in the opposition getting scoring shots a lot more than it does us.
He is a below average player in a below average team. Should be paid accordingly.

He is gone at ground level and that makes him a liability. Just incapable of applying the necessary chasing and tackling good sides have.

It seems to me you have more problems with how we play the game instead of how Casboult plays it. FWIW, I read earlier this season (before he damaged his knee) that Casboult had the second best percentage in the AFL for winning marking contests. IMHO, he wins the ball or he gets the ball to ground most times. If we don't have the ground players to take advantage of that option, I fail to see why thats his fault.

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Yep, it is not his fault. That would be called logic.

Yes you are right BV. A big part of my problem is the way we play when Casboult is in the team. We get lazy and we dump the ball to him too often hoping that the he marks it or doesn't get out marked. He doesn't do much else and what he does with the ball if he does mark it is not at a level past average. I would prefer a group of players take on the role of outlet/ down the line target and have that skill of being able to not be out marked as one of a number of skills in their repertoire so we don't have to waste any one position of the 22 on someone with 1 or 2 AFL standard skills (on a good day).

I wouldn't pay Casboult over the average AFL wage if we decide to keep him to take the bumps for a year or two.

You dont like the way we play with levi in the team? The alternative is the hawthorn model. Which is multiple goal kickers, sophisticated running patterns, AND the cattle to do it. We dont have the cattle yet, so it doesnt happen. Silvagni is part of that equation, and already he is finding space. But he cant do it on his own. Curnow is part of that equation but he is injured. There are two mobile medium talls who can take a grab, and are smart enough to to work together. Big harry will also be a focus, but he cant do it on his own either. They "all" need each other. Casboult needs other smart talls around him to be truly effective. At the moment he is being double and triple teamed, but with Mckay , curnow , silvagni also to look after, the opposition defence wont be able to do this. With these three in the forward line as well, casboult can concentrate more on his role further up the ground, where he is very effective and where his goal kicking ability is less critical.
With all this emerging marking power in the forward line, we are crying out for a mercurial small forward like betts or garlett. Hawthorn have Puopolo and Cyril. I think they missed both players against us. I dont think the result would have been so close had those two played. Which for me demonstrates how important these types of players are. A fit sumner may be part of the answer. If we improve our midfield depth and class, then perhaps Murphy can spend some time forward.

It would be nice if we could afford for Murphy to play the last few years of his career as a small forward.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Michael Barlow anyone?
Could give a few good years of footy and release a murph to play dangerous half forward

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There's a reason for that.
He cannot lead or create space inside F50 so he's rarely seen as an option from quick transitional play. His contested marks are usually from a stop/start passage kicking into a pack

How many uncontested marks has he taken in his career (just so that we don't use his current injury as an excuse)?

He's providing a target from the kick out because he's so inept as a forward. As sure as night follows day, he'd spend the majority of a game inside F50 if his kicking/footysmarts/mobility came even close to his marking ability.

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Bolton and the match committee need to read these posts about Levi so they can see he is no good.
They are playing him every week for no reason at all.
We could sack Bolton and the rest and get some of youlot in here to take over for free. That would release some money for stuff we really need.
Like a new coffee machine.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

You are right. We should immediately close the Talking Carlton forum.

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I will always love this club, no matter what. But I ride the roller coaster like I'm in the front seat and the losses really hurt.

Sakc Bolton
Sakc Murphy
Sakc Gibbs
Sakc Cripps
Sakc Simpson
Sakc Casboult
Sakc Ratten!

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

sakc sakc!

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It's obviously a slow period when nearly all the week's activity in this thread has been about Casboult.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

People's thoughts on Jaeger?? If so, at what cost??
If he can get on the park, he will be a star.
Most likely they would want a first rounder, maybe next years??
Would like too see this years draft,
Use our picks for the draft (kids) and trade next years first rounder for Jaeger.

He is definitely worth a 1st rounder IF he can get on the park and would be just what we need but we would have to be confident answering that IF...

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Carlton - Nothing's changed
I still love you, oh, I still love you
Only slightly, only slightly less
Than I used to, my love

I think he wants the job

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