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Mosquito Fleet
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:04 am 
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murraycray wrote:
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It's official. Silvagni in for Tutt.



stupid decision

who is going to protect him?


FFS he's an AFL player Mossie, not a 14 year old.
Stop sucking on lemons and look at the positives for a change. You might enjoy it. :thumbsup:


Yeah, Mozzie's gone a bit Helen Lovejoy on this one.

He's not the first undersized kid to ever make an AFL debut. Just look at he Western Bulldogs recently. Pumped games into guys like Caleb Daniel, Toby McLean, Mitch Honeychurch, Bailey Dale and Bailey Williams who were all barely 70kgs in their first year.

'Ready' can mean physically in size, endurance wise, or mentally knowing what is required. Not sure any of us can measure that from behind a keyboard.

when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:21 am 
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Navy One wrote:
Some of us on this site have been privileged to have seen both Serge and Steve play live and this week we get to watch Jack.
3 generations ...... gee that makes me feel old. Seen premierships from the first 2 and hopefully Jack can add to that some time soon.
Good luck Jack :clap:



Can someone show me where wheel chair access is?

Brilliant occasion. Glad to be alive to witness this.

Go The Silvagni Dynasty.

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moshe25
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
murraycray wrote:
when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs


He didn't have Syd Jackson or Brent Crosswell. Garry Crane wouldn't hurt a fly, Kevin Hall the same. Viney Waite acted tough but his legend is bigger than deserved.

But I grant you Nicholls and Lofts. Those 2 could look after the Australian Army. Two of the toughest players I've seen.

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moshe25 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
murraycray wrote:
when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs


He didn't have Syd Jackson or Brent Crosswell. Garry Crane wouldn't hurt a fly, Kevin Hall the same. Viney Waite acted tough but his legend is bigger than deserved.

But I grant you Nicholls and Lofts. Those 2 could look after the Australian Army. Two of the toughest players I've seen.


Agree with all the above especially re Vinny Waite - liked him as a player though nothing but bluster when Southby was KO'ed in '73.

Actually Big Nick alone would have been enough there were very few who crossed him (or one of his team-mates) that didn't get their come-uppance.

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GodisNavyBlue wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
murraycray wrote:
when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs


He didn't have Syd Jackson or Brent Crosswell. Garry Crane wouldn't hurt a fly, Kevin Hall the same. Viney Waite acted tough but his legend is bigger than deserved.

But I grant you Nicholls and Lofts. Those 2 could look after the Australian Army. Two of the toughest players I've seen.


Agree with all the above especially re Vinny Waite - liked him as a player though nothing but bluster when Southby was KO'ed in '73.

Actually Big Nick alone would have been enough there were very few who crossed him (or one of his team-mates) that didn't get their come-uppance.

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Could do with winning this one otherwise we could be staring down the barrel of 7 straight losses. That would undo a lot of the good stuff that has happened this year

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Please educate me on Garry Crane moshe. There were a couple of big hip and shoulders I saw of him on Biffs, Bumps and Brawlers DVD. Was he a hard man who took players out fairly?

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Mosquito Fleet
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moshe25 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
murraycray wrote:
when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs


He didn't have Syd Jackson or Brent Crosswell. Garry Crane wouldn't hurt a fly, Kevin Hall the same. Viney Waite acted tough but his legend is bigger than deserved.

But I grant you Nicholls and Lofts. Those 2 could look after the Australian Army. Two of the toughest players I've seen.


BS Crane was hard and all heart
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Mosquito Fleet
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GodisNavyBlue wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
murraycray wrote:
when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs


He didn't have Syd Jackson or Brent Crosswell. Garry Crane wouldn't hurt a fly, Kevin Hall the same. Viney Waite acted tough but his legend is bigger than deserved.

But I grant you Nicholls and Lofts. Those 2 could look after the Australian Army. Two of the toughest players I've seen.


Agree with all the above especially re Vinny Waite - liked him as a player though nothing but bluster when Southby was KO'ed in '73.

Actually Big Nick alone would have been enough there were very few who crossed him (or one of his team-mates) that didn't get their come-uppance.


Vin was hard but yes he took backward steps in the 73 from Balme's round arm and that destroyed his good legacy
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
murraycray wrote:
when Rob Walls first played he would have had to run around in the shower to get wet.


Walls had John Nichols, Gary Crane, Wes Lofts, Vin Waite, Brent Croswell, John Gould, Sergio S, Syd Jackson Kevin Hall protecting him....
we have bryce gibbs


He didn't have Syd Jackson or Brent Crosswell. Garry Crane wouldn't hurt a fly, Kevin Hall the same. Viney Waite acted tough but his legend is bigger than deserved.

But I grant you Nicholls and Lofts. Those 2 could look after the Australian Army. Two of the toughest players I've seen.


BS Crane was hard and all heart


Agree, Crane was hard and all heart. He weighed not much at all and had lots of opponents try to push him around (unsucessfully) but he was definitely not an 'enforcer'.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:13 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
this decision is about money and gate receipts imo


Agree

Soj isn't physically ready

DVR and KJ are incredibly stiff. I don't get it!!! I just don't flowering get it!!

There has to be more to it than just needing to achieve certain KPI's in the VFL over a sustained period

Can someone seriously explain if they know why the reticence to reward these two?

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BigBlueWave wrote:
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No different to Charlie or Jacob.....is it really? A little more physically immature perhaps????

I don't get all the hate for this selection....he's kicking goals and by all reports applying pressure and working hard throughout the games....everything required and especially in a position that we are lacking. If his name wasn't Silvagni he'd get a game. Get excited! I love the romance of Footy.



There's no hate from me............ I love the selection to play him.


Just confused as to why they dropped Tutt.


Someone had to make way ... [b][b][b]Jack was always gunna play[/b][/b][/b].
Buckley was our best player for the NB's last week ... and we need pace ... so I am surprised he was not named.
Also ... on the back of last weeks belting ... it was pretty obvious we needed to do something about the midfield ... I think Graham should have come in.


Why?

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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Amazing how many here are qualified to comment on Jack's readiness


Or how many are qualified to accurately distill informed assessment from personal opinion

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Bringing kids in too early is always a concern but we've blooded every player we drafted and traded for in 2015 who hasn't been injured apart from Glass McCasker and Korcheck .

Hard to make a case for this decision being reckless.

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cimm1979 wrote:
Bringing kids in too early is always a concern but we've blooded every player we drafted and traded for in 2015 who hasn't been injured apart from Glass McCasker and Korcheck .

Hard to make a case for this decision being reckless.


Meaningless post

So because we have done the same actions in the past drives our future action

Mckay got a back injury after 3 months...a more mature body could protect himself...
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Bringing kids in too early is always a concern but we've blooded every player we drafted and traded for in 2015 who hasn't been injured apart from Glass McCasker and Korcheck .

Hard to make a case for this decision being reckless.


Meaningless post

So because we have done the same actions in the past drives our future action

Mckay got a back injury after 3 months...a more mature body could protect himself...



You're a bitter fool MF. :lol:

He's selected on form and, from the outside, the selection has followed the same pattern all year.

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Mosquito Fleet
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cimm1979 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Bringing kids in too early is always a concern but we've blooded every player we drafted and traded for in 2015 who hasn't been injured apart from Glass McCasker and Korcheck .

Hard to make a case for this decision being reckless.


Meaningless post

So because we have done the same actions in the past drives our future action

Mckay got a back injury after 3 months...a more mature body could protect himself...



You're a bitter fool MF. :lol:

He's selected on form and, from the outside, the selection has followed the same pattern all year.


back to Carlton sc for you :thumbsup:
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Nothing to add as usual.

:donk: :lol:

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Mosquito Fleet
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I think the rivalry is dead not necessarily because the last grand final was over 30 years ago but because there are too many commercial links and migration of people between the 2 clubs

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-season ... pv7zv.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:42 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Nothing to add as usual.

:donk: :lol:


i am happy that you at least read it :clap:
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