Why would you rest someone after a bye.
He gets rested next week.

Bring in all the GWS discards they might have a point ot 2 to prove

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Yeah it worked so well against North.
If we're going to take advice, lets not take it off a team that couldn't beat us. Great standards there.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I don't think Murphy is available for the GWS game, and Boeky would need a run in the VFL and ensure he has form for seniors otherwise they are first 22 for me.

I'm over Walker, and yes I know he kicked 3, but none were due to him being a good contributor/player. Right now, I'd have Silvagni ahead of him for many reasons, but I'd like him to do another preseason before he's a permanent fixture and I think we should get Walker to 200 out of respect then the ball is in his court whether he's up to it or not.

IN: Philips Jaksch
OUT: Gorringe White

All the GWS boys Jaksch Plowman Sumner Philips and Lamb to play against GWS.

Sumner, Everitt, Walker lucky to be included. Maybe Tutt deserves a spot more than them....but....I'd like to see Buckley in back before Tutt.

Philips first ruck
Jaksch FF
Casboult CHF

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The amount of byes in the VFL is ridiculous, had one 2 weeks ago and now another this week.

Wanted to go and watch the northern blues this weekend...bloody frustrating

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Kreuzer where? Forward pocket doesn't seem to be his go, midfield would cost us pace, bench takes up a rotation. That line-up looks a bit cumbersome to me. As for Tutt I think he deserves another go, not the future but he has pace which we need and you've got to reward form in the 2s or players get dispirited. Whilst Murphy, Cuningham and Boekhorst are still out and Buckley only just back now may be the time to give him a go. Or do we give Viojo-Rainbow a shot despite moderate 2s form to see if he steps up in better company? I think we need to test the waters with him at some stage unless we have already given up on him.

As long as we put in an effort, the loss wont matter.
Just don't want another repeat of lack of intensity and lack of effort that I saw on Sunday, and in patches against the Lions.
Its a bi concerning we ve dropped off in those areas the last few weeks.
Hopefully the bye has come at the right time for sore bodies to freshen up, and for BB and crew to work on getting the intensity to where it was prior to the last few weeks.

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What line up looks cumbersome? 2 changes, like for like swaps.
A CHF and a FF. That's normal.

A lot of the talk about Kreuzer is how do we fit him in? I agree.

We either play 2 rucks or we don't. BB seems to be prefer 2 ruck men. So am I. Always have been.
Where does Kreuzer play? I hear he's a good ruck rover. Bloody slow one at that.
He's the 2nd ruck I guess....oh but he only plays well if he's the lone ruckman.
Kreuzer has to fit into Carlton, not the other way around imo.

Philips is the only tap ruckman we have, and he replaces Gorringe. That is imperative going on last 2 weeks ruckwork from Kreuzer and Gorringe.
Jaksch replaces White leaving Everitt as a swing man.

That's the big guys. Now to fix our speed issue, that's another story.
How do we add speed? Ideally Boekhurst and Cunningham (preseason form) would suffice but they are not available.

I'll leave the decisions to BB. But, I'll bet today that Philips is selected in a fortnight.

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Winning is good and enjoyable if it comes. It isn't about winning this year.
In Clarkson's first 2 years when Hawks were losing by 100 points Dunstall and Brereton were not fans but...
The Hawks persevered to get the right personnel for the game plan.
We need players who can endure a season. imo we don't have that.

I just hope for effort too. Last week the players went into their shell.
I think they ran out of petrol tickets, and will do so again this season.
BB is building a team for sustained success, and that doesn't happen in year 1.

I believe in BB.

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The only reason I'd be reluctant to play Silvagni is that a twilight game at Spotless is a little off-broadway for my liking.

Let's just hope we setup right at the centre bounces and clearances or at least look like we have a plan else we will not even be in this contest by the 10 minute mark of the 1st. It really could be that ugly.

But they aren't like for like. Yes Philips and Gorringe are both arguably ruckmen, but Gorringe is very much the running ruckman if a ruckman at all, he has pace and mobility and endurance. Phillips is a tap ruckman with far less run. White and Jaksch are both swingmen, but White is a third tall, a flanker or a mid whilst Jaksch is very much a key position marking type. Again much less run. I don't think you can say it's like for like, because they play the positions differently even when considering the same position, and it overlooks that both Gorringe and White can play more mobile roles that Phillips and Jaksch don't.

Gorringe needs to learn how to ruck very fast or he won't be around for long.

Personally, I think he's got a bit of the McKernans about him.

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

we got smashed in the middle- why not drop Gibbs or is he untouchable?

Our rucks were demolished and you want to blame it all on Gibbs?

Good to see you back after a loss Mozzie.

We know your true colours. Saddo.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

My guess is we've played 2 ruckmen this year because Kreuzer has limited durability.
Not sure it's going to work too much longer.

I'd drop Kreuzer and Gorringe and bring in Phillips and Jaksch. Would look at Whiley as well as he'sin good form.

we know your true colors...back to carlton sc for you

Grand Final Preview

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Play like we did against the saints and we will lose by over 10 goals.

Looking at how they played against Sydney we are in a fair bit of bother


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If the saints made us look slow....gws will make us look like 22 Brock Mcleans!!