We were a spent force coming into this week, and we did nothing to freshen things up from a personnel point of view, after clearly scrapping the bottom of the barrel in terms of managing the existing 22.

Endurance aside, pace was going to be a concern coming in and the easiest way to address that within our 22 was always going to be White. He got exposed today, and that's going to keep happening against sides with enough talent and structure to do so.

In terms of transitional/midfield play, we were too scared to take risks today because of the Saints' pressure, when the odd calculated risk would have simultaneously built trust amongst our players while wearing down their resolve.

Matty K's in the ruck when he probably needs a rest because there was no reliable next option. He should be fine after the bye, as should a host of other talls (particularly the forwards) who prior to this week stepped up their pressure efforts in lieu of midfield rotations.

All the spinning plates came crashing down today, but credit to the Saints for executing their plans. By round 15 we should have most of our list to pick from again and we can hopefully shake things up as needed with those reinforcements.

Was White part of our centre bounce setup?

That's where we lost the game, absolutely smashed and had numerous goals against us without touching the ball.

The rest of the game, well we were just flat as a group.

The players are mentally scarred the moment some comes at them a pressure is applied the other way the bottle it.
Cliches wont fix this

Yep, writing was on the wall last week.

I think there is a fair bit of truth in this.

Andy Walker #1 replaced by the Son of our greatest #1. I see that happening.

IMO kreuzer's form today was consistent with having concussion the week before. Happens across the board.

Also my father and i both noticed cripps going 3rd man up way too much today. When cripps goes 3rd up generally he gets tackled and gives a free away. On top of that when he goes 3rd man up if he doesn't win the contest it renders kreuz useless but also takes away our best clearance player. Just doesn't make sense to us

St Kilda were coming off an 88 point flogging they had lost 2-3 of its better players.
The game should have been a walk up start for any team in the comp.
I still think they get ahead of themselves.
The moment the good press comes in and the accolades from all and sundry plus the 48k that turned up to watch them win .This group goes to water.
Bolton has praised the leadership. We have one leader in Docherty week in week out .
Simpson and Gibbs are good leaders when they are winning.
Walker is touted as a leader but he couldn't lead a dog around the park.
The players are mentally scarred the moment some comes at them a pressure is applied the other way the bottle it.
Cliches wont fix this

The players and coach said it themselves after last weeks game but couldn't rectify it.

My fear is our system has been worked out. Maybe i should go to the worry room.

I would have played Graham yesterday. I'm not convinced he should have been dropped.
He provides good support for Cripps and goes forward and kicks goals.

You're right about Cripps Diesel, he should be told to stay on the ground and do his job, he's not in the side as a ruckman, he's in the side as an inside midfielder, can't see any logic allowing that to continue,
I think they are missing Murphy terribly and I know one man doesn't make a team, but it's no coincidence that our midfield has dropped off heavily since he's been out.