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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:59 am 
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My guess is if Weitering doesn't pass the fitness test tomorrow Wood will come in and Rowe will go to defence.


I reckon that is definitely on the cards.

KJ not even in the squad. He must be in the dog house for some reason. It's not like we're a club spoilt for KP talent in the 21-25 age bracket or that his VFL form has been terrible.


Rogers still needs to be shot for that trade for KJ, Boek and Whiley.


It was pick 7 for Jaksch, Whiley and pick 28ish? Jaksch did give Waite a bath at Spotless the year prior and was a top 10 pick when GWS drafted him.

Boeky has shown form this year, and he's only in his 2nd year after we took him with our first rounder in 2014. Nothing to do with the GWS swap.

Hey, Jaksch may turn out good. I'm glad we're holdinh him back till he performs as expected, and I think he will. He has the physical attributes, just needs to sharen up the mental side of his game.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:00 pm 
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Agree Bondi we have tried and failed with white on these players before - it doesn't work - like Surrey not happy with White being selected I know we are up against it and got injured talls galore but surely we have Someone else than continually going back to white - if they elevated Wood why not Ruck with Wood and Gorringe and have rowe plowman weitering play on the 3 talls

what is going on with Jaksch - disappointing in every way

If white plays on Petrie or Brown good night - waite would also murder him

Whie I know tries his guts out BUT


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Jaksch clearly doesn't fit the Bolton mold ...at the moment


Well said.....at the moment.

Plenty of time to condition Jaksch and get him right...then we can judge.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:06 pm 
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Really disappointed with the Jaksch non-selection.
White picked before him is depressing enough but to see Jones & Everitt get games as well while he is languishing in the VFL is just pure Maltouse stubbornness. Very disappointing, especially when we continuously see others apply team ethos when and as they please, yet Jaksch has been named in the best for weeks. Extremely disappointed.


Whatm, you don't like Bolton's decision? No faith in the Bolts? or Extremely disappointed to think Jaksch was ready.

Maybe you're wrong that Jaksch is the best available this week. If it is to be, it is up to Jaksch. He hasn't set the world on fire...yet.

I'd rather he be knocking the door down like the outcast Jones did. If Jones can do it, Jaksch should. If Jaksch doesn't, then frankly he's a fail...for this year.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:09 pm 
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Let's be honest, none of us know what is being asked of KJ or the reasons for him being overlooked. It's very hard to judge the MC when we only have assumptions. So far, I'd back the MC that if he's being left out, it's justified and the right thing to do. I don't think it's a case of his papers being stamped as much as it is that they are trying to get the best out of him


:clap:

Here we are, looking for development in the reserves, and players earning an opportunity to fill a spot they can play.

It is obvious White is ahead of Jaksch and Jamison in terms of form and fitness.

Have to accept MC know better.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:19 pm 
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I like the changes.

Yes I'm surprised Walker survived too, but also glad he has because the MC must know where he's at and if he's improving, and most important if they believe he will find his renowned fitness soon, which will also have a positive impact on his form.

I'm hoping. If he continues to not perform at the level we expect......mmmmm

Gorringe has his chance.

The MC wouldn't name Wood as an emergency if they didn't need to. Maybe Gorringe is not 100%.

Glad to see a fit player take over from Jammo. Come on down Mr versatilt Mr White.

Weitering must be fit to play because he was over the pain in his shoulder last week.

I'm quietly confident. I don't think anyone knows where we are at now we've won 4 in a row, have some momentum, confidence and desire till we play against a top 4 team again.

In the first 4 rounds we have a lapse in the last against Richmond, but we stood tall in the last in the last 4 rounds.
We lost to GCS, Swans, Doggies because who at the time were form teams, and it was only a lapse in concentration in an early quarter, that killed us off, but did well in the last.

This week is a real test. I believe we will drag them down to street fighting level. This is a game style Roos are not familiar with, and may frustrate them.

Team defense.

We need players to stand up and kick goals.

Have a good weekend Mr Walker.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:22 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
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I still don't think we'll win this, but there's something about the Roos line up that suggests they're too tall, too old and too slow. Exploit that and we might be in with a shot.


Biggest test yet for the new 'Team Defense'.

So glad the 'Weiters' is back. :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

Regards Cazzesman


How good AND how mature is he for a first year player?

Bottoming out last year was probably the best thing that could happen to us. Forced changes that were begging to be made and our rebuild is well on it's way.

Exciting times ahead!

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:25 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Agree Bondi we have tried and failed with white on these players before - it doesn't work - like Surrey not happy with White being selected I know we are up against it and got injured talls galore but surely we have Someone else than continually going back to white - if they elevated Wood why not Ruck with Wood and Gorringe and have rowe plowman weitering play on the 3 talls

what is going on with Jaksch - disappointing in every way

If white plays on Petrie or Brown good night - waite would also murder him

Whie I know tries his guts out BUT


White can also play forward and is a utility. I don't mind the selection but I also am hanging to see Jaksch get a few games under his belt.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:27 pm 
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Understand white is versatile and as I say tries his guts out - no want of effort but please he is not a tall defender and is not a midfielder either


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:44 pm 
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Couldn't agree more re: White giving his all at 100% and can't agree more with Frank on this.
Jaksch was equal, if not better than Jones when playing VFL along side each other. He has continued his form and has been kicking less goals because playing back and forward. Plugging holes I believe!!
I had nothing against Jones coming in or even now White coming back but Jaksch missing out this week does not seem right. He can play both KP back and forward, is a true KP player and surely deserves a turn, especially considering what we area we are struggling with and now have even less KP available for selection.
Them my thoughts and they might not be aligned with the current match committees selections/thoughts - but so what?


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:52 pm 
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We've suffered 2 big defeats in a row in the 2's.

Is it some strange way of helping player development in the 2's by maintaining a competitive lineup, to help develop the rest of the players, Jaksch included?

Just a thought...

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:52 pm 
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I am concerned about White be isolated one on one against Petrie Brown or Waite, Waite not as much, but I expect team defense is what will starve their forwards and protect White from such a situation.

There will be instances of being isolated, but it wont be many.

If you have a look at last week's game, sure Port missed a few easy shots at goal, but we starved them, and they snagged a few arsy shots. I'm hoping that we starve these guys, but that all depends on what impact Goldsteins ruck work presents.

Gorringe or Wood....should require both ours against this AA ruckman who can ruck all day.

I still think we need Rowe's presence in the forwardline to at least compete in the air, take a couple of marks, but also bring down crumbs. Rowe has shown TOP form in the last 2 rounds. He has surprised everyone, and last week as a KPF he showed a bit. Hey we won didn't we?!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:55 pm 
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No1Blue wrote:
We've suffered 2 big defeats in a row in the 2's.

Is it some strange way of helping player development in the 2's by maintaining a competitive lineup, to help develop the rest of the players, Jaksch included?

Just a thought...


Looking at the NB's team this week, one thing for sure is if we don't use the emergencies on Saturday night they can all play for the NB's on the Sunday.

The NB team looks much better this week against a weak Coburg.

Jaksch has been named at CHF with Glass-Mac at CHB. Jaksch has the forwardline to himself. Over to you Jaksch.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:01 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:

Gorringe or Wood....should require both ours against this AA ruckman who can ruck all day.



I want to win this week and I think we can.
Bolton would be the same, if not more confident.

The biggest issue I see is if Gorringe or Rowe, or any of the KPs breakdown/ injured during the game.
If they do, we are [REDACTED].

Gorringe will tire, and need a rest. Rowe will be robbed from a KP post to support ruck.
If one goes down.......FMD.

IMO we will not go in with only one ruck. Wood to play, otherwise he wouldn't be named...imo

Gorringe and Wood were injured a fortnight ago, and Imo anything can happen.

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bondiblue wrote:
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Gorringe or Wood....should require both ours against this AA ruckman who can ruck all day.



I want to win this week and I think we can.
Bolton would be the same, if not more confident.

The biggest issue I see is if Gorringe or Rowe, or any of the KPs breakdown/ injured during the game.
If they do, we are [REDACTED].

Gorringe will tire, and need a rest. Rowe will be robbed from a KP post to support ruck.
If one goes down.......FMD.

IMO we will not go in with only one ruck. Wood to play, otherwise he wouldn't be named...imo

Gorringe and Wood were injured a fortnight ago, and Imo anything can happen.


Win the battles we can win. We can't compete against Goldy this week ... so it does not matter who we put up ... but we can rove to him. Saturday night is all about playing a smart game. No point in having both Wood and Gorringe. Better to take in another midfielder.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:39 pm 
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Wouldn't be surprised if there's one or two late changes for us.

Thinking the same thing. Weitering could be a late change and wouldnt be surprised if Wood plays.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:49 pm 
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gorringe the diamond in rough story ,as long he shows or gives us something what a opportunity he has.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:06 pm 
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We've stuck with our structure: resting ruck forward, three talls at the back. It's not about the personnel; it's about the system.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:12 pm 
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Army the Wonderkid wrote:
How does someone simultaneously take a ruck contest and man a dangerous key forward?

Aren't Goldstein, Petrie and Brown all dangerous targets up forward?

bluechampion wrote:
We've stuck with our structure: resting ruck forward, three talls at the back. It's not about the personnel; it's about the system.

It's never one or the other.

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Not sure I've seen it here, so I'll mention it:

Bolton confirmed Weitering as a certainty in today's press conference.

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