I re-watched the game today and it seemed like Phillips rucked for most of the last quarter and I thought he actually did okay in that period.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the Big K is in horrendous form.

If either of the two have to go (and I think we would be better with only one) then Kreuzer would have to be the one.

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We dont need Kreuzer, Casboult and Jones constantly at the same contest, trying to mark the same ball up on the wing.

Especially whilst Phillips is trotting around aimlessly somewhere else.

I think Phillips is more effective in the ruck at the moment and we would be best served dropping Kreuzer for another midfielder.

Casboult can back up ruck and lead up the wings

Jones can stay closer to 50

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Ditto

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Not much has changed in that respect since round one.

It seems they have a reason for playing Krooz and Phillips together and not use Cas as the ruck. It might change but I believe that it's not about winning games ATM. It's about development and game plans.

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It was just even more stark last week cos Jones was thrown in the mix too at the same contests... I dont get the plan but Bolton is smarter than me.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I don't really care if they play 10 ruckman.

I just wish one of them would take a @#$%&! contested mark!!!!

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I hope Essendon* folds.

They do.

One per game.

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We need 18 ruckman then.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

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i watched max gawn play on the weekend and his taking marks in defence and fwd line,maybe our rucks not fit enough to get to all contest

Kreuzer gets his hands to 8 a game and catches 1. Drives me @#$%&! NUTS!!!!

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Kreuz won't play well until he is lone first ruck

He might improve em, but he should be able to pluck a few a game regardless.

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Keep reading that but imo that's an excuse. He doesn't really set the world on fire regardless of what a few cheap stats showed late last year.

It doesn't matter if you're on your own in the ruck or tandem, when its you turn to catch the ball in your area its your turn: no excuses.

Biggest heart, but being selection No 1 in the draft masks his output...imo

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I'm over it!

He isn't going to help us win a flag...unless he gets fitter and stronger and taps to advantage and most importantly takes mark around the ground and converts a few goals....you know, like other leading ruckmen do.

Gawn has gawn past Kreuzer. What selection was Gawn?

Mmmmmm. Kreuzer over rated.

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I think you're being kind....he gets his hands on as many that he runs under the flight of the ball to - it's his own personal tribute to Ty Vickery....

If only Collingwood had poached our fitness and medical department we could have had pick 2......lol

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I maintain he's being played wrong, and coached worse. At the extreme end of things, watch how NicNat spreads from the stoppage:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnZggNZjXQU

Basically, he doesn't. He also regularly goes back and just sits in front of the defence or plonks himself in attack near the goal square. It's very old school in many ways, but there is a deliberate conservation of effort going on there for two reasons:

1. He's playing at an extremely heavy weight that's not conducive to gut running
2. With his explosive power both on the ground and aerially, if his judgement of the flight is solid he often doesn't need to run around manically to generate stoppage spread or win the ball.

Kreuzer is a different breed, but he needs to learn a little from this and maybe pace himself through a game. He's got vastly more gut running ability, but he's going from arc to arc and killing himself. He needs to get the tap to create spread, or bullock in combination with Cripps once he's back on the deck to quickly release the football.

The more effective he gets at this, the less time he's spending at maximal effort. From there, the coaches need to work with him to determine the areas of the ground he should be most frequenting and for how long.

I don't expect him to be NicNat, but there's a lot to learn from the way he's playing right now that he can adopt into his own game style. Phillips can sit in the reserves and Levi can be our Lycett/Hale.

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I see the light.

OK. That's a theory>
Something needs to change. Perhaps he is spent at each contest after 10 minutes.

He's playing ruck rover when he's on the ball instead of ruck and a bit of effective roving.

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Yup, and this comes back to the interchange cap and the impact that's having on the way he likes to take the game on.

I'd rather him be a steadying influence, which when he could freely rotate on and off for a breather, he could be. Now, he needs to take those breaks on the field and be patient with his positioning. A few of our midfielders could benefit from a similar approach when we win the ball from stoppages in our forward half.

Having cleaner hands and better skills obviously helps when you minimise your efforts to score and maintain possession of the football, but the other component (and one that we're obviously working harder on than previous years) is positioning and knowing when it's your turn to go, stay, assist, etc.

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