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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:57 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
More shit analysis jim.

It does bring me great joy to watch you spends hours contorting stats to help support your dumbarse theories.

:lol: :lol:

That took me less than 5 minutes. :lol:

What do you do with your time?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:18 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
More shit analysis jim.

It does bring me great joy to watch you spends hours contorting stats to help support your dumbarse theories.

:lol: :lol:

That took me less than 5 minutes. :lol:

What do you do with your time?


5 minutes. :lol:

Jim, you've spent half the day dragging stats to support dumbarse ideas. :lol:

Eyeballs jimbo. Try 'em, you'll like it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:43 pm 
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I prefer to paint mine on and take a nap; you've foiled an otherwise perfect plan.

Curse you

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:59 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
99prelim wrote:
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chubbyruss wrote:
Frees 30-13

6-2 inside 50
17-9 in the midfield
7-2 down back

cauliflower

Cripps conceded three and received three, I think there was a general trend where tall players got punished for tackling shorter ones.


Cripps getting frustrated by having to carry the side without any support from more-senior mids
As bad as our fwd line is, our mids at the moment are non existent.
And I50's can be inaccurate stat.
Our mids need to be hitting the scoreboard or manufacturing a scoring opportunity without using the insipid fwds more often
Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas and Graham come to mind

Graham was shit
Gibbs was inconsistent in terms of scoreboard impact but still had a lot of involvements and kicked 1.1
Murphy was instrumental in the half that he played
Thomas was influential when he wasn't moping up down back


All 4 were virtually ineffective no matter what spin you put on it

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:02 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
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Graham was shit
Gibbs was inconsistent in terms of scoreboard impact but still had a lot of involvements and kicked 1.1
Murphy was instrumental in the half that he played
Thomas was influential when he wasn't moping up down back


Gibbs was nowhere in the first half. Thomas was a liability in the first half.

Murph wasn't instrumental, but supposedly ill.

Gibbs - 23 pressure acts, 2nd only to Cripps between the two sides; 6 scoring involvements, an equal team high with Lamb and Docherty and equal 3rd on the ground with 7 players. Worked hard in the bubble; didn't get enough intelligent support to create on the spread, 101 of a possible 118 minutes.

Murphy still had 3 score involvements and 9 pressure acts.

Thomas - 5 score involvements, 14 pressure acts playing as the link between defence and midfield; made some smart decisions with the football that opened up the game for others.

The problem isn't those three, it's how everybody's linking up with them and each other. In those performance indicators, no Dogs player shined brighter, they just had their effort rewarded by assistance from others, resulting in a greater spread.

Lamb, Sumner and Buckley provided some of this and are trending upwards in these categories, but Casboult, Phillips, Rowe and Graham were way down on the night. The focus should be on them, not the prime movers in a half-broken machine.

To speak in metaphors: stop pointing at the shiny spoon with a bit of muck on it, and notice to the rusty fork that people are cutting themselves on.

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Hard to believe we were only 7 goals down.

They completely dropped their heads in the second quarter, particularly in the defensive unit. Byrne wanted the ground to open up when he made that turnover, while Rowe looked like he didn't want to be there. At least Tuohy and Docherty were trying to re-ignite them. Rowe can @#$%&! off.


Are they whole game (including junk time) stats or half game stats?



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:04 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
jimmae wrote:
99prelim wrote:
jimmae wrote:
chubbyruss wrote:
Frees 30-13

6-2 inside 50
17-9 in the midfield
7-2 down back

cauliflower

Cripps conceded three and received three, I think there was a general trend where tall players got punished for tackling shorter ones.


Cripps getting frustrated by having to carry the side without any support from more-senior mids
As bad as our fwd line is, our mids at the moment are non existent.
And I50's can be inaccurate stat.
Our mids need to be hitting the scoreboard or manufacturing a scoring opportunity without using the insipid fwds more often
Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas and Graham come to mind

Graham was shit
Gibbs was inconsistent in terms of scoreboard impact but still had a lot of involvements and kicked 1.1
Murphy was instrumental in the half that he played
Thomas was influential when he wasn't moping up down back


All 4 were virtually ineffective no matter what spin you put on it


How was Murphy influential again? We kicked 2 goals in a half and were flogged in the midfield. He was no where to be seen, along with Cripps and Gibbs.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:12 pm 
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10 disposals, 3 scoring involvements; that's getting involved in a chain of possession that leads to a shot on goal at least 30% of the time.

He was, by that limited measure and in that limited game time, influential by creating run and spread then using the ball well. It's hardly spin.

Do people think we need more players like Murphy or less?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:13 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:16 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
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Honestly, if I could have a midfield with two versions of Cripps, Gibbs and Murphy as a starting point, I'd take it.

It wouldn't be the greatest clone army you could muster, but compared to the rest of the competition it would be in the elite category.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:35 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
10 disposals, 3 scoring involvements; that's getting involved in a chain of possession that leads to a shot on goal at least 30% of the time.

He was, by that limited measure and in that limited game time, influential by creating run and spread then using the ball well. It's hardly spin.

Do people think we need more players like Murphy or less?


Sam Rowe averages 1.5 score involvements a game from CHB.


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How the game panned out ......

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How the game "must" have panned out accoding to jimmae. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:18 pm 
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The Normal One wrote:
jimmae wrote:
10 disposals, 3 scoring involvements; that's getting involved in a chain of possession that leads to a shot on goal at least 30% of the time.

He was, by that limited measure and in that limited game time, influential by creating run and spread then using the ball well. It's hardly spin.

Do people think we need more players like Murphy or less?


Sam Rowe averages 1.5 score involvements a game from CHB.

And Murphy doubled that in a half?

Let's be clear: the game high was 7. The Dogs won on the spread, not from some messiah.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:22 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
How the game panned out ......

How your argument's going:

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Keep huffing and puffing, then maybe head outside and tell everyone how big your balloon is

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:58 pm 
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Its tough blaming Murphy for our midfield performance. His time in the centre square this season has been extremely limited.

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Murph has taken some huge hits over the years. Cash would surely be the only reason he is playing. Can't be enjoyable.


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You blokes need to settle down,.. stop trying to outdo each other you're ruining the site

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:19 pm 
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Murph has taken some huge hits over the years. Cash would surely be the only reason he is playing. Can't be enjoyable.

Are U saying no care factor by the captain ,outside of money?

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The Normal One wrote:
jimmae wrote:
10 disposals, 3 scoring involvements; that's getting involved in a chain of possession that leads to a shot on goal at least 30% of the time.

He was, by that limited measure and in that limited game time, influential by creating run and spread then using the ball well. It's hardly spin.

Do people think we need more players like Murphy or less?


Sam Rowe averages 1.5 score involvements a game from CHB.



For which team?

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bluedog wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
jimmae wrote:
10 disposals, 3 scoring involvements; that's getting involved in a chain of possession that leads to a shot on goal at least 30% of the time.

He was, by that limited measure and in that limited game time, influential by creating run and spread then using the ball well. It's hardly spin.

Do people think we need more players like Murphy or less?


Sam Rowe averages 1.5 score involvements a game from CHB.



For which team?

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