It was 20-4 two minutes into the third quarter.... Diabolical

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Graham was shit
Gibbs was inconsistent in terms of scoreboard impact but still had a lot of involvements and kicked 1.1
Murphy was instrumental in the half that he played
Thomas was influential when he wasn't moping up down back

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I think there has to be a turnover of some kind for it to be registered, i.e. the opposition sends the ball into 50, the defence sends the ball back out

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I normally don't care about the umpiring. See it as lotto. A bit like the bounce of the oval ball.
Last night was a bit different. Seemed like two sets of rules. They would get a free for something and then the same thing would happen the other way and no free. Could see the players and crowd getting frustrated and the umpire seemed to get spurred on to be even more inconsistent. Was hard to watch.

Gibbs was nowhere in the first half. Thomas was a liability in the first half.

Murph wasn't instrumental, but supposedly ill.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Looked at the stats of the midfielders at half time and it was diabolical, probably more so than the diabolical free kick count.

From memory
Kerridge - 11
Murph - 8
Cripps - 7
Gibbs - 7
Graham - 5

Think it was something like 30-10 in clearances, on top of a free kick count of 17-4.

Hard to believe we were only 7 goals down.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Gibbs - 23 pressure acts, 2nd only to Cripps between the two sides; 6 scoring involvements, an equal team high with Lamb and Docherty and equal 3rd on the ground with 7 players. Worked hard in the bubble; didn't get enough intelligent support to create on the spread, 101 of a possible 118 minutes.

Murphy still had 3 score involvements and 9 pressure acts.

Thomas - 5 score involvements, 14 pressure acts playing as the link between defence and midfield; made some smart decisions with the football that opened up the game for others.

The problem isn't those three, it's how everybody's linking up with them and each other. In those performance indicators, no Dogs player shined brighter, they just had their effort rewarded by assistance from others, resulting in a greater spread.

Lamb, Sumner and Buckley provided some of this and are trending upwards in these categories, but Casboult, Phillips, Rowe and Graham were way down on the night. The focus should be on them, not the prime movers in a half-broken machine.

To speak in metaphors: stop pointing at the shiny spoon with a bit of muck on it, and notice to the rusty fork that people are cutting themselves on.


They completely dropped their heads in the second quarter, particularly in the defensive unit. Byrne wanted the ground to open up when he made that turnover, while Rowe looked like he didn't want to be there. At least Tuohy and Docherty were trying to re-ignite them. Rowe can @#$%&! off.

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And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

They're better than Kreuzer's, when it comes to marking contests.

Just to be clear..
You're talking about jordan russell right?

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Don't worry, 66 game reboot will fix everything.

Are they whole game stats or half game stats?

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I don't have access to incremental stats, so no, it's the full four-quarters.

The same four quarters the Dogs played. I think ODN on BF takes screen caps of half-time stats from the AFL site, let me go take a look while you posture more.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

So where I said they were all ordinary in the first half you just ignore because it doesn't suit?

On this occasion you should also use your eyes a bit Jim.

Daisy was PUTRID in the first half. He only managed to work his way into the game when the heat went out of it. he gives away stupid frees out of frustration because he couldn't catch anyone.

Gibbs was ineffective.

Kerridge was pretty @#$%&! useless a well IN THE FIRST HALF. He was slow, ran into dead ends, could catch anyone.

All three got better as the game slowed down in the second half, because they are slow.

Need more pace over the whole ground.

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Daisy had one poor quarter on my viewing, Kerridge looks dog tired because he is running like a maniac. He's not slow, that's a myth, much how people used to call Ed Curnow one-paced: you don't maintain top speed if you're running all day to cover for others (in this case, a few lumbering talls and several injured/returning players).

There's this vast ocean of data that if you pick around for 5 minutes or so, you can see that you're being glib and have unrealistic expectations of certain players, but instead you keep savaging the ones you see as the greatest disappointments, rather than the greatest failures. You then use that data to fuel what to look for with those eyes of yours.

Anyway, I was there mate, used my eyes plenty. Every player you named put in an effort for as long as they were out on the field, and it came off for them more often than not.

They made more good decisions than dumb ones, they just didn't have enough helpers, particularly ones with raw pace, like the Dogs have in spades. Bontempelli's first three kicks - his only kicks for the first half - were all goals, for example. It's great when your smart ball users can get given time and space to execute and move to dangerous spots of the ground.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ ... t-43937201

Quarter time

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Half time

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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ ... t-43939316
Three-quarter time

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It seems your eyes aren't as great as your claims. It also shouldn't be this difficult for you to type out an opinion.

But anyway, that's just my opinion on you, here's some 'original thoughts' on Thomas, Gibbs, Murphy and Kerridge:

Thomas - intelligent if not always effective ball user, excellent aerial read and gut running ability; not worth the contract we paid, but hopefully not meeting enough clauses for it to be a huge concern over the price-tag.

Gibbs - best utilised as a defensive midfielder who can rest at half-forward, is being asked to do a job as an inside/clearance mid more often than he would in a good side and is suffering a little due to his inability to spread at an elite level as our mids learn not to play smashball; still heavily involved in the game and doing great work around the clearances to keep us competitive

Murphy - probably still our most balanced midfielder, but working his way into the season as evidenced by his limited game time in the first half; will provide more run and spread and outstanding decision making, particularly entering into the forward 50, as the season wears on and he gets up to full match fitness

Kerridge - the poor bastard who, like Gibbs, is covering for a whole host of young players and failed projects (such as Whiley), was third best for medium mids with his sprint time at the 2011 at the combine, and has done nothing since to disuade anyone from the idea that he has an excellent speed/endurance combination. Looking forward to him nailing more kicks as he expends less energy on covering for mistakes, some of which are his own.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Murphy instrumental with 3 disposals in 3/4 of the first half??????

8 disposals, you're looking at the wrong table

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

But I didn't look at any table.

Murphy shouldn't have played if he was that influenced by illness that he had to throw up at half time and be rested so much.

All it did was give us 21 players on the day.

a sick Murphy played exactly the same when he wasn't sick for the last few weeks.

More shit analysis jim.

It does bring me great joy to watch you spends hours contorting stats to help support your dumbarse theories.

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I hope Essendon* folds.