But you can't argue with what they're saying! Right?

This is the unending situation. You seriously can't argue with any of it! You and your mates only try to silence the messengers and the message.
Even if you do were being martyred for the sake of what's left of the club.
You can never live down your stoning..

There is nothing logical in the whole context of what's happened and where we are in what you're saying!

I told you.. My job is to expose the perpetrators of the homicide that's been committed.
The body is fast getting cold and they should never be allowed to go unnoticed.
You're an accomplice! Face it!
Your role in the attempted cover up has not gone unnoticed.

Now regardless of whether it's accidental homicide which I have no doubt they really didn't mean to kill the club. They were just careless.. Bit still.. They are responsible and unaccountable

There's many famous Greek quotes for example " know thyself "

Aussie quotes are just as profound

"Fair suck of the sauce bottle" and they have sucked it dry.. And they don't want to give anybody else a go.
But it's dry!

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well i'll be a monkeys uncle if this current set up works and delivers us a flag.

Bolton seems like a smart guy, he'll probably jump ship in 2-3 years once he realises the systemic issues of the club won't let him achieve real success.

You're assuming Bolton can't fix the list, game plan and therefore our fortunes on the ladder.

I have no doubt Bolton is the right guy to fix on field things and then the play thing of the Oligarchs can be enjoyed.
I don't believe for a minute the so called "Oligarchs" are happy with the way this club has been going, and want to improve it...whatever the cost.

I have witnessed Green shoots every week including NAB 2 against Essendon*.
The kids will improve their fitness. The oldies will be pensioned off.

I just cant understand why many TCers are surprised we lost by 10 goals to a super outfit like the Swans. This is nothing like the loss we had against WCE last year in round 2 or 3 where no one was playing for the coach because the 2010 game plan was not going to work circa 2015.

It is a reset from Top to Bottom.
MLG has more influence than some give him credit for. He doesn't fear Pratts or Mathiesons. Nor do I believe he's Mathiesons puppet.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Yeah, Nah....
First of compare it to what we got for Betts, Waite, Garlett, Robinson, Laidler, Sauce...... Then get back to me

Call me an optimist if you like, but I don't live life looking in the rearview mirror.

I'm happy with the constitutional changes along with the change in mindset in relation to the way we are rebuilding the team now. No quick fixes.

I'm also happy that we've gone against 150 years of headhunting coaches that are used to the top rungs of the ladder and don't have the passion nor desire for hardwork in turning a list full of easy beat youngsters into a competitive unit. The good old days were easy...zones, cash and the ability to refresh a team in an offseason.

It's all refreshing.

Of course the proofs in the pudding, but it's a much nicer view looking out the windscreen of the car. Should try it one day

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Here he goes again, typing with only one hand

Starting from a very low base as you have rightfully pointed out, Silvagni has scaled the heights to mediocre.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Why don't you finish up and then use two?

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Rusty , you think you have me pegged, but you dont. I am not an apologist for the regime. I am just an observer- just like everyone else here.
As an observer I have been seeing green shoots everywhere. But where I see green shoots, you see barren ground just waiting for a tree to be transplanted in.
You keep on going with your rusted on views as if your whole self worth is determined by you being right about this scorched earth theory that you have- even when there is evidence to the contrary.

WINNING!!!

I have you pegged
Nothing about being an apologist for this regime.. Loll

You haven't provided any evidence to the contrary that were not at this place Here! Again! And that's not the fault of the same people making the same decisions here! Again!
And there is no evidence that this time will be different here! Again!
Compared to all the other times that have put us here! Again!

Yes.. I have you pegged!

Again I work with context and percentages of using what's happened as a measure for what's going on.
You have no method but hope!

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Rusty I havent provided any evidence? Surely you should hold yourself to the same standard. So where is your evidence? Not that i expect someone as hypocritical as you to answer. You love shooting arrows but dodge and weave on return

Logic says we are here because of the same people that brought us here.
There is plenty of evidence of that
Strongly you're saying I am asking for a svorched earth policy

The truth is the club has been scorch earthed!
Look at it! Look what it was!
I'm not the one with the scorched earth policy unless you truly are trying to say in all your wisdom you can scorch scorched earth by blaming those that scorched the earth in the first place.

Make sense when you speak man! Nonsense is why were here today.. At this place... Again... Still!

A little fiddling around the edges won't take us out of this place.
That we find ourselves
Today
Again
Still

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Fiddling around the edges.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Of course!
We have been restructuring every year
Except board culture which is the guts of any club

When we follow somebody who brings us back to this place again.. Jim.. It means we've been led around a circle

I'm not sure what you understand about logic

But I'll let you in on a pearl of wisdom

There are no corners to turn in a circle!
That's logic.
What you're promoting is utter fantasy!

Because we're following the same people who brought us back here.. To this place.. Still.... Again!

Logic is a scarce commodity these days

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Because we're following the same people who brought us back here.. To this place.. Still.... Again!


My opinion is that we are following our president and coach. What are you saying? Stop talking in riddles.

Synners, you and I clearly do not agree on the level of competence, or influence, of the board.

My view is they are now competent and that's increasing at a rate of knots, and that their influence is heavily overstated.

Feel free to discuss this further in an appropriate thread.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Stop addressing me then
You're debating here then when you can't reply you make an untactical retreat..
You need logic not fantasy and camouflage or don't challenge at all

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Don't get me wrong

I feel for Bolton!

Poor bloke!

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