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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:41 am 
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After promising NAB Challenge form, I was a bit disappointed by Graham & Kerridge. I don't think it's a case of me overrating them (I don't), I just think they can both do better than what we saw last night. Graham looked to have heavy legs to me. And Kerridge copped a heavy knock early and I wonder if that effected him.


Actually thought they played alright, especially Graham, especially the 3rd qtr. Kerridge showed quite a bit but 2 dumb errors in the last qtr really detracted from his game. Like Casboult, what certainly could've been a good game was brought down by kicking, in Kerridge's case, field kicking.


My jury is out on Graham. I'm really 50/50 right now.
Need to see some newbies.
Ditto Casboult. We might be better developing a promising young kid instead, or..
are we too impatient, and should persist for 6 months more.
Tough decisions ahead for selection panel. (which is good!!)


Graham's been alright for a while now, including last year when he got his chance. As far as Casboult is concerned he needs to be there as the big body while another KP kid develops otherwise the young bloke will get smashed. Big bodies are very important in that regard.

Casboult will get superseded by McKay, Jaksch and C.Curnow eventually, as he's solid but not that good as a straight up key forward (look better if he kicked straight), but right now his size is needed for the next year or two. Still actually think Casboult is our best 2nd ruck option, not for the tapouts obviously, although that has improved, but more than any other ruckman we have he'll take a heap of marks around the ground. Often an option to kick to coming out defence. Around the ground he reads it well and his field kicking is better than his goal kicking. Performs that role better than he does a as key forward. Maybe play Jaksch and C.Curnow forward with Casboult's big body around up forward as 2nd ruck as a physical insurance.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:06 pm 
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Made Tiges look like top 12 side. But Casboult cost us. I have confidence that Bolts will cut him now. Terrible.


He got touches, took marks and had've actually converted, an on-going problem admittedly, he'd have been very good. To actually have a shot at goal you have to be able to get it first. He's the one tall that does mark it at least. His misses hurt badly, real bad, but yours is a knee-jerk reaction of the highest order. He won't get cut. We could've got a good trade from him last year so he won't be cut.

Non-thinking post.


Finally a comment that shows some sense.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:16 pm 
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Made Tiges look like top 12 side. But Casboult cost us. I have confidence that Bolts will cut him now. Terrible.


He got touches, took marks and had've actually converted, an on-going problem admittedly, he'd have been very good. To actually have a shot at goal you have to be able to get it first. He's the one tall that does mark it at least. His misses hurt badly, real bad, but yours is a knee-jerk reaction of the highest order. He won't get cut. We could've got a good trade from him last year so he won't be cut.

Non-thinking post.


Finally a comment that shows some sense.

He didn't have a good game on the stats sheet.

Look at the game again....he straightens us up and provides a contest.....got to a lot of them and in most occasions the ball gets to the ground for grinders like lamb and wright to get it out.....all is not lost.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:19 pm 
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https://twitter.com/brendongale25/statu ... 2413588480

They struggled to beat the team that came dead last 6 months ago. And were only missing Deledio and Maric & Grigg. Conca never played last year. Yarran is irrelevant.

Gale needs to accept they're a mediocre team who won't be achieving anything meaningful with their current list.



A CEO really tweeted that? Wow.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:49 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
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https://twitter.com/brendongale25/statu ... 2413588480

They struggled to beat the team that came dead last 6 months ago. And were only missing Deledio and Maric & Grigg. Conca never played last year. Yarran is irrelevant.

Gale needs to accept they're a mediocre team who won't be achieving anything meaningful with their current list.



A CEO really tweeted that? Wow.

this is the first time in years that they have any sort of injury list.
Talk about clutching at straws.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:58 pm 
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having cripps and walker only play a half in nab and murph none at all probably meant we tired quicker and with rotation cap our skills dropped off as we tired.

This made the White selection all the more confusing for me, because he's not a renowned marking/release option, and doesn't really add run.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:27 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
emtwenty wrote:


https://twitter.com/brendongale25/statu ... 2413588480

They struggled to beat the team that came dead last 6 months ago. And were only missing Deledio and Maric & Grigg. Conca never played last year. Yarran is irrelevant.

Gale needs to accept they're a mediocre team who won't be achieving anything meaningful with their current list.



A CEO really tweeted that? Wow.

To be fair, he's always been a bit of a knobhead

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:17 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
emtwenty wrote:


https://twitter.com/brendongale25/statu ... 2413588480

They struggled to beat the team that came dead last 6 months ago. And were only missing Deledio and Maric & Grigg. Conca never played last year. Yarran is irrelevant.

Gale needs to accept they're a mediocre team who won't be achieving anything meaningful with their current list.



A CEO really tweeted that? Wow.

this is the first time in years that they have any sort of injury list.
Talk about clutching at straws.


So what's his point? That Carlton have a better list than Richmond?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:26 pm 
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Did anyone else get the impression that we played like we used to under Ratts? I know Dimma mentioned that in his presser, and, in retrospect, kinda made sense.



Not Really. We are far more defensive now. Under Ratten we ran forward all the time giving many options when we had possession, but we constantly got found out when we inevitably lost possession due to skill error and turnovers. opposition had an easy rebound and goal. The only similarity was that we played exciting football


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:38 pm 
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Didn't realise, that, a very unlikely finals match aside, we don't play them again this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:09 am 
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Casboult is embarrassingly useless. His job is to mark, break packs and kick effing goals. We se m to struggle developing forwards year after year.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:18 am 
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That could be because we dont draft too many of them

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:48 pm 
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That could be because we dont draft too many of them


Yep, we had an annoying utility fetish.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:04 pm 
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london blue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
jim wrote:
MIL wrote:
Made Tiges look like top 12 side. But Casboult cost us. I have confidence that Bolts will cut him now. Terrible.


He got touches, took marks and had've actually converted, an on-going problem admittedly, he'd have been very good. To actually have a shot at goal you have to be able to get it first. He's the one tall that does mark it at least. His misses hurt badly, real bad, but yours is a knee-jerk reaction of the highest order. He won't get cut. We could've got a good trade from him last year so he won't be cut.

Non-thinking post.


Finally a comment that shows some sense.

He didn't have a good game on the stats sheet.

Look at the game again....he straightens us up and provides a contest.....got to a lot of them and in most occasions the ball gets to the ground for grinders like lamb and wright to get it out.....all is not lost.


After all these years all we can say about Casboult when digging for a positive is that he provides a contest.

...and i am not sure where the trade offer from another club that Jim talks about comes from. Herald Sun?

We are in good hands with Bolton. If he thinks Casboult is worth it and keeps him on then who am i to argue.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:04 am 
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I think the more accurate thing to say is that he wins most contests. If he was just plodding along he'd not be in the team.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:08 am 
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I just had another look at the game and 1st I would like to apologies to Casboult. His last kick for goal he did nearly everything right, except kick truly. The kick just faded in the end, which as unfortunate. The guy played a damn good game considering what he had to put up with from the defenders and nil support from the umpires.

No doubt, we lost the game through our turnovers and via a crucial dropped mark in the last quarter from footsteps himself.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:19 am 
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Roughly when was this dropped mark? I'm struggling to recall it.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:29 am 
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Everyone knows and has said that if we d kicked straight, it would ve been game over
We were t he better team overall and they know that.
That's why they have to clutch at straws to appease their supporters.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:30 am 
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At least we're not pay Casboult $1mill a year ala Collingwood and Cloke.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:26 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Roughly when was this dropped mark? I'm struggling to recall it.

The passage of play starts with 12:52 on the clock, right after Riewoldt snaps a behind.

Docherty from the kick out, directly honours Graham on a short lead

Graham honours a long lead from Lamb into the space behind Graham, Graham has to lob the kick out in front of him and central to so he meets the required distance
The ball at this stage has moved 25 metres away from Richmond's goal

Docherty drifts up and makes a casual lead into the space left by Lamb, and in combination with the mass of players being on the near wing, opens up some space in the corridor

Graham, identifies the zonal gap and reads that Docherty can reach it by foot, and makes a searching lead from 60m out of Richmond's goal halfway between the boundary line and the centre square corner, right through to just inside the corner, opening the game up

Everitt, another kick ahead of the play, has identified the same gap and leads his opponent towards Graham before doubling back and running with his back to the ball, cutting out towards the wing before again cutting inside (his opponent Rance, hasn't committed to closing him at this stage, so a little of the running was for nought)

Graham executes the pass, which asks a tiny bit of Everitt but he makes the run but doesn't quite secure the ball.

There's no sign of panic from Everitt, the only short step he pulls is to ensure he times his run at the ball mere split seconds before the mark, but he just misjudges the flight marginally and it slips down from between his hands into his waste, and that's all the time Rance needs to close and tackle Everitt as he gathers.

It's a mistake, but he didn't piss himself, and he did everything right to make Rance look second rate except nail the grab. The close-up replay even shows he only took his eyes off the footy the split second before it had made contact with his hands, and Ellis (I think) was well in his range of vision before this.

I think at worst he's tried to spend it before he had it. In the end he was too far out to score, but he did have (I believe) Boekhorst making a run into the 50 from left HF (off-screen).

FWIW, the resulting stoppage saw Docherty spray a pass to a Walker lead, which then resulted in a throw in, so we had plenty of chances to set up depsite the error.

It's a critical mistake, but there's zero cowardess in it from where I'm sitting.

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