Shirts on versus shirts off.

That was always good for......not many!!

Jenny Craig should sponsor the club to have naming rights on training singlets for those who are in the fat squad...

I highly doubt BB would bring it in if it wasn't possible, and I'd be very surprised if the same criteria doesn't apply to the 3 times reigning premier where BB comes from.

I'm only summising but if this criteria is a form of KPI at the Hawks then it's prudent to want to emulate a 3 times in a row premier

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

That's basically what it is when it's phrased this way, and the exclusory process.

If they wanted to send out a good message to the public, they should have flagged a different name and make a public education effort out of it. Instead, we're the club that calls it fat club or fat farm in 2016, and we give a whole bunch of young people the wrong impression about physical health.

The worst part right now is that a few people will likely lurch about online and openly try to work out who that one bloke is.


Dietary science and endocrinology aside, it is different for everyone, but they're using skinfolds to get the data, so this is an issue of subcutaneous fat, and '12%' is a pretty generous threshold for an elite athlete in an endurance sport.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

We will have a whinge over anything on here!

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dane's trolling again

I think Robert Walls' 'Strempel method' would suffice.

12% is also quite high for an athlete though. I'm down from 19% last year to 12% now and to be honest I'd hope they were all in better shape than me. It's not some ridiculously low figure where they have to start compromising performance.

If it were a triathlete it'd be high. But we're talking about a range of body types with different requirements. I'm really just surprised it's so specific and not even within a range. e.g For a bloke like Matt Korcheck - 12-15%. For a midfielder like Marc Murphy 9-12%.

It's an upper limit doc, so it is a range. CK is right; 12% is on the upper range for caliper measurement of an elite athlete, and these guys have full-time staff dedicated to what they put in their bodies.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

If you want the club to sell more memberships, you need to be out in the public putting out the right message. 'Fat club is for losers' is not the right message.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I think the idea of a fat club amongst elite athletes wouldn't be perceived that way.

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dane's trolling again

Reading the article I get the feeling it wasn't a club initiated article - there aren't any direct quotes. It's all heresay. Not saying the facts are incorrect - just that I don't get the impression the club approached Gleeson to write the article and promote fat club.

Fair enough re: range. But the skinfolds are really just to make sure the players aren't cheating. e.g they're living and breathing the professional footballer ethos and not sneaking a few beers and chips in when they get home from training. It's also been 20 years since I was very fit and skinfold tested...perhaps em or jim can tell me - surely they're still not using calipers to measure?

That's the method they're still teaching at university.

There's technologies that will be more affordable over the next 5 years that are somewhat more exciting, but when you need to quickly assess 40 athletes right now it's hard to look past calipers or bioelectrical impedance analysis, especially when you have a fairly strict control over their intake, and plenty of comparative factors well documented.

Consistency of the measurements and an understanding of their drawbacks is paramount, and I'm sure the club have that well under control. Bolton would just be a messenger for the players. I'm sure they do some more hardcore stuff at least a couple of points in pre-season and immediately after the season.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Anyone have naming rights to Fat Club? I see a diet fad revenue raising opportunity here.

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"They're [REDACTED]'

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... %20sun_rss

"But former sports administrator Brian Waldron has slammed the Blues, suggesting it was socially irresponsible to name the group the “Fat Club”. “Surely they could call it something else,” Waldron told SEN.

“To have a football club talk about a fat club — you only need to walk around the streets of Melbourne to see how many people are overweight. Some of it unfortunately is by their own doing, some is hereditary, some people can’t help it."

Brian Waldron talking about social responsibility

Brian isn't exactly one who ought to be lobbing stones.

Is it any worse than having a TV show called The Biggest Loser?

Er, could be worse, could be injecting our players with Coke.

He went on to say the club is flaunting the fat club and we are looking for media attention from it. Oh dear.