I think I mentioned it.. Hmmmmmmm
But remember one thing.. When you see a big fat cockroach around you can bet your bottom dollar there are many, many more under the floorboards..
Put your money on disappointment.. And put extra on this board pile driving this club harder into the canvas..
That's a no brainer...

They peddle hope they don't peddle success!

Same can't be said about successful clubs and boards.. They're in reality to get success.. They're not crossing fingers and holding a rabbit foot!
Everything we do is hope.. Because the planning is crap.. So the execution can't be any good.. And the results are dire.
That's how it works!

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The Board is no good, ok got it. Who would do a better job than the incumbents.
Lets name names.


Oh.......''ANYBODY'' doesn't cut it.

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

The board needs to step away.. Completely..
Allow the best clearskin team to move in.
Plenty of people better than MLG and his hapless board around Melbourne.( of course) lol the keystone cops might be funny but you don't ever want to rely on them.
When they move aside and that means every one and the three camps. Elliott Pratt Mathieson.. With the promise of closing ranks around the new team.. The club can move forward.
Nobody is going to challenge and fight that axis and have them all rip their influence and friends away from the club with the taste of revenge in their mouths.
The club will never go forward with these people and their clients/ supporters hell bent on destroying them.
They won't go away quietly in a shit fight and they will seek revenge.
Which is why nobody will do it.

The club is booby trapped for any challenge.

Take that to the bank!
This regime is what's killing this club

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When you don't understand this football club, you just don't understand this football club.
It's a simple as that!
But if you understand this football club and you understand the underlying factors you'll know this club is finished and this regime has denied it any chance of clean air..

So I can't support what these people are doing. They're actually loving this club to death!

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We've been down this road before. But some of the names previously mentioned probably would have just replaced suit for suit. And previously we didn't have enough women in the mix of names thrown up. Then there's those, like Telstra's Andy Penn, who probably wouldn't have the time. Then there's others who no longer have the inclination.

It's probably not worth spending too much time on the 'who'. This could be Carlton's last board that has control of the place. If the AFL does take some control of how Carlton is run - then the number of board members and who they are probably doesn't matter a whole lot. The most important person at the place is your CEO. Steven Trigg is at the helm for the foreseeable future and he's doing an ok job. He may well be a better CEO for Carlton with the AFL's assistance.

Trigg is a steady as she goes type of CEO.
Nothing groundbreaking will come from Trigg. He's spent in Adelaide already!
That's why he's not there now..
They want to push forward into the future.. They don't want to tread water like they were under trigg in his last three years.
He will stabilize us.. That's all!

The last thing the afl will be looking for is having to prop up a club like Carlton. They have not projects going on than a year 11 student.
Carlton failing is a nightmare scenario for the afl

And yet here we are!


Too amateurish for too long by the same old same old.

Just wait! This time we will get it right! Just wait!

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If the AFL's model for Carlton going forward is to grow the club, then having a CEO who stabilizes the place could well be a good thing for Carlton to have.

Trigg may be a good operator and communicator but he is under the control and employed by the board

A ceo is under the control and decisions of the board..so trigg cannot step out of the board's line.

Hence we are back to the same issue.

Synbad is correct.

Doc sherrin III's comments about an afl installed board is good. Subject to my suggestion that a full rewrite of the constitution is required with certain guarantees back to the club written in.

We had an AFL installed CEO once before

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

We've been over this a number of times, and it's pretty clear to me that you either don't get it, or you're playing dumb in the hopes that you'll keep those who could get it (because it's a really simple concept to understand) from learning more about it.

I'm not worried about the board because they clearly are evolving and learning best business practice, which they will pass on as they shift out of office (which at the very least they are constitutionally bound to do). If Bolton turns out to be a monumental failure after all the failsafes that were put in place to prevent this - including changing the paradigm of contract structure at every level of the football club moving forward - then and only then can you really say 'I told you so'.

Frankly I don't think you could tell the difference between shit and chocolate with your thought process, you're just so used to calling a spade-like object a spade that you've not realised how long you've lived being led by the hand.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Maybe what Trigg delivers is groundbreaking to Carlton?

Is Andrew Penn a Blues supporter?

Yes.

This is not weekend golf! Were not competing against ourselves here

We're competing against seventeen other clubs.
So what's trigg done to push us ahead of those?

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What do you mean, ''we / us''?

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

Trigg has spent a lot of time analysing club operations to establish where we weren't up to scratch. He made comment that he was surprised at the size of the job, as clearly Swann and Sticks were telling porkie pies about the true state of things. You can rant about the old regime and you'll get no argument from me, but Trigg and MLG are doing plenty to get the club back on track. You can't go from the state we are in to a league powerhouse instantaneously, it's about setting some workable goals financially and repairing what wasn't working previously.

We need to move from looking solely at the president and ceo...there are 7 other board directors that are in charge of trigg...the board that won the 4th spoon is still the same...

If there are quality candidates out there looking to join the board, by all means make some noise for them and campaign your heart out . Moaning about the board as whole, when the club is moving from stagnation to progress is pointless.

It's ok he'll be behind them 100% next week.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!