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 Post subject: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:54 am 
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Alex Jesaulenko
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Superstars and list heroes

Cripps
Weitering

Hopeful future core group

Docherty
Tuohy
Jaksch
Boekhorst
C. Curnow
Sumner
Lamb
McKay
Cunningham
Plowman
Byrne
Silvagni

Aging core group

Murphy
Gibbs
Simpson
Kruezer
Rowe
Everitt
Thomas

Depth group

Buckley
Jones
White
E. Curnow
Wright
Graham
Kerridge
Phillips
Armfield
Casboult

Retirement imminent (next 2 years)

Walker
Jamison

Speculative

Gorringe
Whiley
Viojo-Rainbow
Foster
Sheehan
Gowers
Glass-McCasker
Gallucci
Korcheck

Gone (unless significant turnaround occurs)

Tutt
Dick
Wood
Smith

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:34 am 
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Count down the top 25 in that group, top to bottom. Stops at Armfield and it includes Jack Silvagni who probably won't play next year.
Leaves us pretty thin as far as depth is concerned for next year unless some of the speculatives get a guernsey.

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 Post subject: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:49 am 
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Yeah it's going to be a tough year.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:18 am 
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dane wrote:
Yeah it's going to be a tough year.

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 Post subject: List Management 2016
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Good post.

I hope Sumner gets over his injuries. His highlights look super impressive. Would be an absolute steal if he can rediscover his best work.

Two main scenarios look likely for next year:
1) we are as bad as we were this year and finish last. This would make us eligible for a compensation pick giving us 3 x top 20 picks next year.

2) we have a St Kilda 2015 type year. Very competitive, unexpected wins and have pick 5 + 23.
I wonder if we could trade one more pick into the first round. I wonder what that would be.

That would take our future core to 15 which looks very solid.

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Not enough Cripps, Dane.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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Cripps is on the other list, just his name...over and over and over....

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 Post subject: List Management 2016
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I've updated with his correct title.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:11 am 
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Good post. Just add some Whiley.

Agree it looks thin if injuries hit, but most lists are like that. Would hope we've sorted out a lot of the avoidable absences from previous years.

I expect Kerridge, Phillips/Gorringe and Lamb to play a fair bit this year. Unfortunately that list shows that if even a few injuries hit we'll be seeing more than we'd like from the guys in the bottom group (although I'd have Smih in the "speculative" group).

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:02 am 
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That future core group has 9 speculative players.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:30 am 
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How are we going to be worse than last year?
All of the players we've lost played poorly last year, group will be more united, Gibbs will play, fingers crossed Jamison, Walker & Kruse are uninjured.

How do we go backwards?

explain.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
How are we going to be worse than last year?
All of the players we've lost played poorly last year, group will be more united, Gibbs will play, fingers crossed Jamison, Walker & Kruse are uninjured.

How do we go backwards?

explain.


Which clubs will we overtake next year?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:32 am 
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woof wrote:
Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
How are we going to be worse than last year?
All of the players we've lost played poorly last year, group will be more united, Gibbs will play, fingers crossed Jamison, Walker & Kruse are uninjured.

How do we go backwards?

explain.


Which clubs will we overtake next year?


I think we might overtake Essendon* and Brisbane - can't see us finishing ahead of anyone else however.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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Humpers wrote:
woof wrote:
Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
How are we going to be worse than last year?
All of the players we've lost played poorly last year, group will be more united, Gibbs will play, fingers crossed Jamison, Walker & Kruse are uninjured.

How do we go backwards?

explain.


Which clubs will we overtake next year?


I think we might overtake Essendon** and Brisbane - can't see us finishing ahead of anyone else however.


I would consider the season a resounding success if our new recruits prove their worth and finish above Essendon*. Even if we end up with Pick#2.

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 Post subject: List Management 2016
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No chance we will be as worse next year. Mid table easily achievable.


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 Post subject: List Management 2016
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woof wrote:
That future core group has 9 speculative players.


Is quite concerning.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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From what I have seen of training 3 things will have a bearing on how far we can go;

Kicking efficiency,
Speed of ball movement,
Team structure and communication.


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 Post subject: List Management 2016
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I'm guessing we'll not have a similar exodus as we did this year, so I'll be curious to see what our trading & draft strategies will be for 2016.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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I reckon Kerridge and Phillips should be in the depth group, while Smith might work his way into the speculative group if the training reports are anything to go by.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:25 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
I'm guessing we'll not have a similar exodus as we did this year, so I'll be curious to see what our trading & draft strategies will be for 2016.

Agree, we have turned over a lot of players in the last 2-3 years so there has to be some sort of stability.
It would be good to be in a position that we don't have to delist too many players or have players wanting out.


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