I don't think we even get twilight footy now. We're the early Sunday game. Part of the AFL family but in the same way that the touched inbred cousin is hidden under the stairs when polite company is around.

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Left wing moralists
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They shit me no end

Rogers left during the season, no idea why (except he was Hughes right hand man and didn't like the likely accountability being placed on him - I'm only guessing though as its a mystery) but everyone else is contracted so you tie someone up for the end of draft day this year. Just cannot blame the club for what happened. What happens now is a good point but let's stop trying to guess and actually see what happens.

Maybe they think they have some good talent already, everybody who's been a head recruiter excellent or shit hasn't got the top job straight off the bat.

In relation to sos, you can only go by actions and what he's done post season is what this club has been crying out for years for. He's the list manager, not recruiter so let's not jump at a shadow that's not there hey!!!

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

So....who's the recruiter?

1. F@#k that !
2. F@#k that !
3. F@#k Yeah !!!!!

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What your trying to say Doc is there's only one recruiter?

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Better odds than Tigers

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No, he's saying there is NO recruiter.

Glenn Elliott, Dale Harris, Michael Jordan according to our website.

The above quote tells me that, in your mind, SOS is NOT the recruiter. And I am asking you a question. If you think that he's not the recruiter - please tell me who the recruiter is.

There's three recruitment officers.

Sadly for your slick mental image of a functioning organisation, there isn't one dude wearing a chieftain headdress while shaking a rainstick to honour the gods before the harvest.

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There's only one dude, dude.

But Jim, how many other clubs are going into the draft without a Head Recruiter? And just when did Rogers go? March maybe?

And what I'm saying is there's way more than one recruiter, do I know their names no I don't, but there's a whole network of recruiters. There's just no one with the head title, so what I would think would be happening is they all sit in a room for weeks on end and collaboratively come up with a list of names, positions they're expected to fill in 3 years etc etc.

SOS is the list manager, he does the strategic work around which types he wants, the trade period etc etc and forward plans the list build strategy

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I think dot points is the way to go from here on out:

* There is a suggestion that Mr Paul Brodie will commence duties of National Recruiting Manager at the Carlton Football Club once his suspension is lifted. (I cannot speak to these suggestions)

* It is alleged that in the interim - Mr Stephen Silvagni will assume the responsibilities of National Recruiting Manager. These responsibilities will fall under the umbrella of GM - List Management and Strategy until such a time as an official announcement is made regarding the National Recruiting Manager.

* Mr Glenn Elliott, Mr Dale Harris and Mr Michael Jordan will report to Mr Silvagni. Their roles as Recruiting Officers will remain unchanged.

So who's on charge and makes the decisions and then I'd responsible?
You need to answer that

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So if recruiting goes belly up do we blame sos?
Does sos say he was only filling in he's just the list manager?
The fact that you can roll lackies names out and pretend they mean something can be translated into we never needed Paul brodie to begin with so why get him?

Laughable clutching at straws again.

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Again, they were all contracted this year and probably those out of contract are highly likely to be contracted until after this years national draft. Rogers left during the season, whichever way you want to twist your logic the clubs hands were tied even if they wanted to.

Recruiting team is a sum of parts, how about we wait until post National draft hey, because you're just guessing what's going to happen.

Until then SOS is accountable clearly as he's the head of list management and strategy which overlooks recruiting. You don't lose accountability because you have someone reporting to you, wish I could do that would be fantastic

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Have we created a system for those in our recruiting team to further themselves within our organization?
I'm interested to know what education and development we're giving our recruiters to get more out of themselves in their chosen career.
Do you have any idea ?

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Does SOS listen to no one but himself?
Does SOS not seek to form a consensus with the other staff involved in the final decision making process?

Those staff are not lackies; there aren't that many full-time scouts in AFL football. We have 3 in Victoria, 1 in WA as far as I know, the rest is a network of part-timers, which continually increases over time.

Then SOS has his own network going alongside that currently so that they have plenty of intelligence being fed in. It's probably one of the largest recruitment networks of all the clubs, it's just at the top tier there's currently 3 people and they currently answer to SOS so there is an individual to oversee and manage, but to suggest he's just doing as he pleases is insane; he'd be fired within a month, or you'd be hearing about more people walking.

But by all means, kept talking about how it's a nightmare. At this point, it's almost as though everyone's pessimism and distrust is the thing fuelling our predicament.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

...or probably not!!...but isn't the word 'probably' fun Jim?!