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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:47 am 
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Lol, that's what the rank and file want.... They don't want power base.

But he's not a rank and file he's a puppet.
He's put there by his masters.

He's basically one of them without a power base
In Shakespeare's Hamlet be plays the part ofRosencrantz and Guildenstern.. If you want to know more about them read Stoppard's 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead'
You understand.

Compared to the previous 15 years he's like chalk and cheese, doing a good job so far, I think the Pratts had better strike this year because another year of transforming the club and the rank and file will vote for him in record numbers

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:53 am 
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Jimmy.
Don't worry! Fortunately your charismatic self has been keeping things on the straight and narrow.
Now.

In the second year of our rebuild..
With the gambling ring busted and some of the protagonists shipped off.
And the guy we waited a full year to take over.
Not sure if you've met Paul Brodie, but I have.
Would you believe I spent the whole time I have known him wanting to clean the pie gravy from his fuzz balled polo shirt.
Who as well as leading our new wave recruiting was sprung laying illegal bets on?

Now I'm rambling again but did you know we're not replacing him? Were going to wait for his 13 months have been served.
OK so we will be two years into a three year rebuild without a head recruiter.

Keep in mind two more things
Paul is one of sos's best mates and the word coming out of the club is I'll paraphrase

It's OK because it gives Paul a chance to get his life together.
I'm sure Paul is in his fifties. Now I haven't seen him since he worked for Shane O in the early 2000s

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:56 am 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
Synbad wrote:
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Lol, that's what the rank and file want.... They don't want power base.

But he's not a rank and file he's a puppet.
He's put there by his masters.

He's basically one of them without a power base
In Shakespeare's Hamlet be plays the part ofRosencrantz and Guildenstern.. If you want to know more about them read Stoppard's 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead'
You understand.

Compared to the previous 15 years he's like chalk and cheese, doing a good job so far, I think the Pratts had better strike this year because another year of transforming the club and the rank and file will vote for him in record numbers

Compared to the previous twenty maybe.
But that's not the marker you'd be looking at if you're seeking to improve in any meaningful way

I would think every club is currently ahead of their last decade


Not sure what you're saying here.
Why wouldn't you be comparing how were going forward to how hawthorn Geelong Adelaide WC etc are going forward?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:57 am 
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Maybe we like our existing recruitment team more than what's proven to be available/affordable (i.e. contract buyouts from other clubs)?

That's more like to be a decision rather than indecision.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:10 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Maybe we like our existing recruitment team more than what's proven to be available/affordable (i.e. contract buyouts from other clubs)?

That's more like to be a decision rather than indecision.

So if it's so good why would we take him on after he's finished his thirteen months?
That's the question I pose to you.
Google might have the answer for you.
Check it out

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:13 pm 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
Synbad wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
Lol, that's what the rank and file want.... They don't want power base.

But he's not a rank and file he's a puppet.
He's put there by his masters.

He's basically one of them without a power base
In Shakespeare's Hamlet be plays the part ofRosencrantz and Guildenstern.. If you want to know more about them read Stoppard's 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead'
You understand.

Compared to the previous 15 years he's like chalk and cheese, doing a good job so far, I think the Pratts had better strike this year because another year of transforming the club and the rank and file will vote for him in record numbers

The rank and file don't get votes
Mark is part and parcel of the apparatus that makes that a due thing..

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:58 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
Synbad wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
Lol, that's what the rank and file want.... They don't want power base.

But he's not a rank and file he's a puppet.
He's put there by his masters.

He's basically one of them without a power base
In Shakespeare's Hamlet be plays the part ofRosencrantz and Guildenstern.. If you want to know more about them read Stoppard's 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead'
You understand.

Compared to the previous 15 years he's like chalk and cheese, doing a good job so far, I think the Pratts had better strike this year because another year of transforming the club and the rank and file will vote for him in record numbers

The rank and file don't get votes
Mark is part and parcel of the apparatus that makes that a due thing..

Then they'd be striking this year then lol not hiding in the shadows distancing themselves whenever they are asked a hard question

Not making sense, rank and file have been wanting this for quite sometime. It's an easy strategy for MLG, just highlight that it's an historical faction that want their power back. And just highlight what that done for us in the last 15 years.

No way they'll win the vote, and they know that because the rank and file want the club back and the lapsed rank and file arent coming back until they're convinced the power bases are not trying to run the club.

Another year and they'll be even less chance than now. I have a feeling it hurts the Pratts deeply

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:04 pm 
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In fact the more I think about it the more I want them to have a crack this year, brings it forward a year where the lapsed members can understand the club is finally listening

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:25 pm 
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As much as the words rank and file are heard there is nothing for the masses of the club that means belonging.

What has been created for the rank and file members?
The secret raheen dinner?
The young professionals ?

There's no transparency and people won't buy the talk because actions speak louder than words.
Like I said Mark is a dead man walking right now.. He's allowed by his handlersa bit more time before he has both barrels emptied into his face like sticks had, because everybody needs time.. What's been created is a huge mess. And it's going to get worse.
Somebody will need to be dragged up to the top of the apocalypto pyramid and be sacrificed.. It's going to be the nobody president with the appalling record of tumbling the club into new depths.
He knew what he was getting himself into if he had any brains... The finances are going to take another massive hit next year.. They're not going to turn around as the brand slides .
The Pratt's withdrew money to see whether this guy can sick or swim


He's going down like a lead balloon
No amount of helium is going to save that situation for him.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:41 pm 
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Actions are everything.....been more direct action in one year than there's been in 15.

I'm glad you just said that about the Pratts money.... one of the worst seasons in living AFL memory on the field. I was expecting more than 2 mill, at least I know we aren't taking from the trough. Another positive step that I suspected but can't verify until you did.

That's the message they've got to get out there because that's what Carlton people want. They want their club back, which is why I now think these shadow slugs should have a crack. Perfect opportunity to highlight to the lapsed rank and file.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Also confirms Jeannie and Raph are the two who they want from the current board lol

Just gets better

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:24 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Maybe we like our existing recruitment team more than what's proven to be available/affordable (i.e. contract buyouts from other clubs)?

That's more like to be a decision rather than indecision.

So if it's so good why would we take him on after he's finished his thirteen months?
That's the question I pose to you.
Google might have the answer for you.
Check it out

I just told you why, we don't like what we can afford now against what we already have...

We tried for Hawthorn's guy, they enforced the contract. We've tried for Wells in the past IIRC, we went for Brodie and now he's out of the game for 2 drafts. If we rank the existing structure as number #4 on our list or we kept a relatively low-key shortlist that we're going to expand upon post-draft period (when recruiter's contracts expire) that's fine by me.

We're talking about the difference one guy makes when we have two sets of talent ID networks meshed together currently, and we're working under the assumption said guy isn't going to feed information to us in advance if we've committed to bringing him into the fold post-suspension. Here's hoping he learns how much of an idiot he was for betting in a sport where he has access to critical information that can influence the result, but so long as we're not going to try and pay him during his time out, who cares?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:57 pm 
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So Brodie has a contract with us? He is still contracted to GWS for this draft I would've thought?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:57 pm 
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Who's we?
Are you guessing or did I miss something official or are you the president?
Jimmy you're talking in tongues.
Nothing you're saying makes any sense.

The meshing of the two ids gibberish hails from what happened to the tower of Babel..

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:11 pm 
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So Brodie has a contract with us? He is still contracted to GWS for this draft I would've thought?

That's one year we waited
And next year he's contacted to the afl punishment

That's two years for Paul and were doing a Paul or bust! Laughable


But that's not nearly as laughable as the notion that mark lajudice is the people's champion! That's very laughable and a very funny joke.
Waiting for the punchline...

He's party to the system that's been killing the grass roots of this football club.
Insecure and without any kind of his own powerbase he's reaching out to grass roots to portray himself as some kind of independent and clearskin
When we all know what would happen to him off the parties decide it's time for him to go
Just as they put him on the chair they will kick out away and he will be left hanging.
He doesn't have a popular legitimacy to the presidency. He wasn't ever elected by the people. He came through on invitation and ascended by the inside. Will go down the same way.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:19 pm 
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Worst season in history and we are 8000 ordinary admission only members away from breaking even without a single cent from the Pratts.

Getting better all the time.

All MLG has to do is continue the reform and bring inclusiveness back to the club.

That's all the people want, no idea about others in here but I hear it all the time from lapsed members I talk to..... They're not dumb people, they know full well it's a faction play thing in regards to ego, power...

It's what we've been wanting forever and a day, and it's being done by someone that was put there as a compromise to both the factions.

Makes me giggle somewhat....

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:23 pm 
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Getting better at perennial losers
Wasn't the worst.
We've been here before.
We've improved before
But we're here again.
How is mark improving us in the quest to catch the front runners?
Every club improves bit some go backwards.
Finding a CEO to help him take us to Adelaide circa 2011 is no threat to the good clubs even if Adelaide 2011 is unbelievably good for us.
When we get to Adelaide 2011/..Probably in 3 years a few ships world have sailed.
Don't judge us against the worst bit against the best.
We're in the worst category

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm 
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Take this to the bank.. Were going to lose at least the same again.
The board does not have the answers.
Why do I know this? Because I put everything in its correct context.
Same decision makers including mark.. Same result

This current board and their elite model are out of date. Like a lettuce you've found in the back corner of your pantry that's just been there way too long to be any use

Yes I know mark tries to do the people things. Get in touch rub shoulders etc.
He knows we need the people and he needs them.
The problem is he isn't cut out to be the president that brings us up.. And he doesn't have the support of anybody.
He's the patsy set up for the fall as we lose millions and millions and fall further and further behind.
After mark there will be a new mark.. Just like magic.. Invited on elected from within.

When and if the club turns the corner you'll maybe see amathieson in charge.. Like magic
That's when you'll see a name you'll be familiar with.

When you go to sleep with dogs you'll wake up with fleas mr prez.
Sticks had a bigger powerbase than you and more support from the people

Like all other patsies sticks ..

Bang bang they shot him down.
Bang bang he hit the ground.

Great song at Carlton

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:50 pm 
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So Brodie has a contract with us? He is still contracted to GWS for this draft I would've thought?

Even if he'd signed one with us to start after this draft, that's at the very least suspended for 12 months, if not void.

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No it begins now in thirteen months from the beginning of God suspension ( his contract)
By the way any news on a new conditioning head? Lol

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