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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:46 pm 
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Collingwood, Essendon*****, Brisbane, St Kilda and Swans twice
No trip to ADL but trip to TAS
First home game v Swans


So bottom 6 teams don't have to play a top 6 team twice...........but even though we came LAST, we still have to play Sydney twice?


You're surprised that the AFL doesn't follow its own formula?

This IS the AFL formula.
Sydney plays GWS twice. 8 points but getting harder.
So they play us twice 8 points and steady for a while.
Sydney starts the year with 16 points guaranteed. It fits the need the AFL has that Sydney stay in the top 4 if possible but in the top 8 anyway.
They only have to win eight more games and they're OK.
Suns? tick
Brisbane? tick.
StK? tick.
Melbourne? tick.
Essendon**? tick.

There's five more and all from the bottom teams.
So now we're up to nine gimmes for Sydney and they still haven't played anybody of note.

Do I need to go on?

So what are you trying to say? Surely the AFL are not corrupt?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:49 pm 
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Wet Willie wrote:
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Collingwood, Essendon***, Brisbane, St Kilda and Swans twice
No trip to ADL but trip to TAS
First home game v Swans


No trip to Adelaide AGAIN??

Is that the second year in a row? We have a great supporter base in SA... :banghead: :banghead:

So how many interstate trips?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:51 pm 
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Would've been more advantageous to play all the top teams twice.


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Official crowd: 66,305 at the MCG.


Double the average attendance at an AFL match. Healthy crowd. The rest is noise. No need to pay too much attention.

Mmmm... The huge games are ok if we get a 'healthy' crowd?... :oops:
I wouldn't run my business that way.

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Hawthorn v Richmond, round 18 2015,Friday night. Both team threatening...at the top of their game...
game was OK...Tiges got up....
Both teams have "massive membership"...
I think Hawks have 32 million and Tiges increased to 70 gazillion this year. ..
Official crowd: 66,305 at the MCG.


and.....are you ready for this.....


THIS IS THE BIGGEST HOME AND AWAY CROWD BETWEEN THESE TWO TEAMS....EVER!


The AFLis juggling funny numbers...but in the end they're only creating a problem for themsleves. They can only pretend that everyone is interested in GWS


We appeared in 20 per cent of the highest drawing games for 2015 (4 out of 20) ... a year that we sacked our coach, lost our most high profile player early in the season and finished bottom.

But wait ... there are more BLOCKBUSTERS planned next year. Richmond vs Melbourne ... 58,000. :clap: :screwy: :eek:

Good to see someone gets it. AFL are chipping away at their own product.... PLUS they should be sh!the scared that teams with THAT many supposed members AND recent success can only muster a 'healthy' crowd....

It ain't gonnna get better :roll:;)

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For those complaining that we have a skewed fixture next year, that's the fault of the club hierarchy and the AFL's dependence on "traditional blockbusters". For years, we demanded 2 matches against Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon* regardless of the position of the clubs on the ladder.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:30 pm 
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When does the draw actually get released?

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
For those complaining that we have a skewed fixture next year, that's the fault of the club hierarchy and the AFL's dependence on "traditional blockbusters". For years, we demanded 2 matches against Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon** regardless of the position of the clubs on the ladder.

Don't get what the problem is?
'Disappointing' 70k crowds still seem to me to be better than 'healthy' 60k ones

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:59 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
For those complaining that we have a skewed fixture next year, that's the fault of the club hierarchy and the AFL's dependence on "traditional blockbusters". For years, we demanded 2 matches against Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon*** regardless of the position of the clubs on the ladder.

Don't get what the problem is?
'Disappointing' 70k crowds still seem to me to be better than 'healthy' 60k ones


The hurdle clubs have to get over to actually make any coin from matches is a far greater problem than any fixturing, especially the inequality of stadium deals, and the way some teams play at some stadiums almost exclusively.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:52 pm 
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oh ok, the preseason game


No, for premiership points as well.
Two trips.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:54 pm 
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oh ok, the preseason game


No, for premiership points as well.
Two trips.

Crikey!

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
billc3 wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
For those complaining that we have a skewed fixture next year, that's the fault of the club hierarchy and the AFL's dependence on "traditional blockbusters". For years, we demanded 2 matches against Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon**** regardless of the position of the clubs on the ladder.

Don't get what the problem is?
'Disappointing' 70k crowds still seem to me to be better than 'healthy' 60k ones


The hurdle clubs have to get over to actually make any coin from matches is a far greater problem than any fixturing, especially the inequality of stadium deals, and the way some teams play at some stadiums almost exclusively.

Agree KK...
My point was that lots of hype happening which will just undermine things in the long run. The modern blockbuster clubs aren't a solid base on which to build the game's future... Hawks included.

Bizarre fixture and priorities based on what looks good on the butcher's paper at AFL HQ rather than reality

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:21 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
billc3 wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
For those complaining that we have a skewed fixture next year, that's the fault of the club hierarchy and the AFL's dependence on "traditional blockbusters". For years, we demanded 2 matches against Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon***** regardless of the position of the clubs on the ladder.

Don't get what the problem is?
'Disappointing' 70k crowds still seem to me to be better than 'healthy' 60k ones


The hurdle clubs have to get over to actually make any coin from matches is a far greater problem than any fixturing, especially the inequality of stadium deals, and the way some teams play at some stadiums almost exclusively.

Agree KK...
My point was that lots of hype happening which will just undermine things in the long run. The modern blockbuster clubs aren't a solid base on which to build the game's future... Hawks included.

Bizarre fixture and priorities based on what looks good on the butcher's paper at AFL HQ rather than reality


With you there. They'd be better off scrapping so-called blockbuster matches, and starting the fixturing from scratch to allow all teams an even run, which would then allow big matches to develop on their own rather than be forced which is what's been happening.

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Megaman wrote:
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oh ok, the preseason game


No, for premiership points as well.
Two trips.

Crikey!


Yep, one trip to Launie a year is more than enough ... :razz:

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
billc3 wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
billc3 wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
For those complaining that we have a skewed fixture next year, that's the fault of the club hierarchy and the AFL's dependence on "traditional blockbusters". For years, we demanded 2 matches against Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon****** regardless of the position of the clubs on the ladder.

Don't get what the problem is?
'Disappointing' 70k crowds still seem to me to be better than 'healthy' 60k ones


The hurdle clubs have to get over to actually make any coin from matches is a far greater problem than any fixturing, especially the inequality of stadium deals, and the way some teams play at some stadiums almost exclusively.

Agree KK...
My point was that lots of hype happening which will just undermine things in the long run. The modern blockbuster clubs aren't a solid base on which to build the game's future... Hawks included.

Bizarre fixture and priorities based on what looks good on the butcher's paper at AFL HQ rather than reality


With you there. They'd be better off scrapping so-called blockbuster matches, and starting the fixturing from scratch to allow all teams an even run, which would then allow big matches to develop on their own rather than be forced which is what's been happening.


"Blockbusters" are to the AFL as speed cameras are to state governments.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:31 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
"Blockbusters" are to the AFL as speed cameras are to state governments.


Very effective safety measures :wink:


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BoundaryRider wrote:
Wojee wrote:
"Blockbusters" are to the AFL as speed cameras are to state governments.


Very effective safety measures :wink:


Catch only the stupid.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:50 am 
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Rexy wrote:
Feels like a massive feeding frenzy of sharks on a dead whale at the moment.

Carlton being torn to shreds....



Exactly, and where is the AFL support/concern for Carlton's plight that mirrors the level of interest they have in North Melbourne, Port and Brisbane for example.

Thankfully the team that won 4 games and is over 6 million in debt is there to help the AFL with their "equalisation" plans, but in return Carlton get nothing. Used as a guinea pig, rolling around and round in their cage. Carlton is weak, but we are sold the pup "it is all of their own making due to poor recruitment".

All I hope for is Carlton playing twice the bottom four teams (to mirror that weakness). Playing twice against Tasmania's Hawthorn in 2015? yeah, right. Good scheduling that one.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:56 am 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
Collingwood, Essendon**, Brisbane, St Kilda and Swans twice
No trip to ADL but trip to TAS
First home game v Swans


Playing the Swans twice?

Yeah, surely they are joking.

If Carlton is the worst team in the competition = why on earth is Carlton scheduled to play Sydney twice? Sydney has played every recent finals series and been in two recent grand finals. This mirrors the pathetic scheduling of last year.

Should have been Collingwood or Melbourne, Essendon*, Brisbane, St Kilda and Gold Coast.

Ridiculous scheduling. Yet again.


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