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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:47 pm 
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I was happy with the responses. I prefer short and sharp and to the point to flowery and full of BS.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:38 pm 
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^^This^^

Action, not words!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:54 pm 
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Whilst I think Mark's on a hiding to nothing in this job - if he puts himself in the position he has - he's gotta do better than this. Some of the answers give nothing to the supporters at a time when he should be giving plenty. Particularly to Jon Anderson, who has a lot of respect for the place and can frame a Q&A article as a positive PR exercise for the club.

We have gone from 13 to 10 and at this year’s AGM we will go to eight if the members vote accordingly.

Better question would have been why do you want to go to 8? Has anyone really got to the bottom of that?

JA:Is eight a number you prefer?

ML: Between eight and nine, but I think eight is a good number.


Well...the Chinese like it.

ML: You know, I actually never said $1.5 million. You said that. We will report closer to a $2 million loss.

Next statement should have been about equilisation monies payable. The club is deemed middle of the road...but if it's middle of the road - why is Carlton continuing to rely on handouts and financial guarantees from the AFL to stay in business?

ML: I won’t put numbers on it but we have a strategy to improve membership significantly over the next three to five years.

Internally, there's a number. But if you want to get to that number - you have to reach out to the lapsed members. Heads up - you stopped communicating to them. Keep in touch...it's pretty easy these days.

ML: Our debt is around $5.5 million. There is a lot of historical debt in that, which began when we built the Legends Stand. Our plan to grow Carlton includes revenue from outside of the normal football channels.

It'd wanna not be gambling. You're barely making $2.5 million profit off of 290 machines. It's a disaster.

ML: Richmond in the opening game and Collingwood on a Saturday afternoon at the MCG are must fixtures.

You're asking for the Pies on a Saturday arvo when it's a given? Why? Ask for the Hawks at the MCG instead.

JA: In recent weeks I have watched under-18 games at Ikon Park and I saw a good building for the players and a good playing surface, but it is surrounded by a very tired looking facility.

ML: We have appointed a consultant to start a master plan for Ikon Park. The ground is fantastic but the reality is the back of the house is falling down.


The appointment of the consultant happened 12 months ago. The master plan should have been done. It's a 3 month job. What's the hold up? Care to correct JA on the ground's condition? The ground is far from fantastic. It has required a major drainage overhaul for 2 years and the board nor the CEO can convince the AFL to pony up a single cent - even though they schedule games there. This is Negotiation 101 and you're flunking.

Why not sell the lease to the AFL? You're forking over hundreds of thousands in maintenance every year for what? Training? You've got 19 years remaining on something Melbourne City Council owns. It made sense in 1996 when that was negotiated, but now? Not so much. You could clear the debt in one foul swoop. The powers that be might even let you play a few games there once they've fixed it up. But don't fix up a white elephant that isn't yours.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:13 am 
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Between 8 and 9? Is Gleeson the 0.5?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:58 am 
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Jasper Jones wrote:
Whilst I think Mark's on a hiding to nothing in this job - if he puts himself in the position he has - he's gotta do better than this. Some of the answers give nothing to the supporters at a time when he should be giving plenty. Particularly to Jon Anderson, who has a lot of respect for the place and can frame a Q&A article as a positive PR exercise for the club.

We have gone from 13 to 10 and at this year’s AGM we will go to eight if the members vote accordingly.

Better question would have been why do you want to go to 8? Has anyone really got to the bottom of that?

JA:Is eight a number you prefer?

ML: Between eight and nine, but I think eight is a good number.


Well...the Chinese like it.

ML: You know, I actually never said $1.5 million. You said that. We will report closer to a $2 million loss.

Next statement should have been about equilisation monies payable. The club is deemed middle of the road...but if it's middle of the road - why is Carlton continuing to rely on handouts and financial guarantees from the AFL to stay in business?

ML: I won’t put numbers on it but we have a strategy to improve membership significantly over the next three to five years.

Internally, there's a number. But if you want to get to that number - you have to reach out to the lapsed members. Heads up - you stopped communicating to them. Keep in touch...it's pretty easy these days.

ML: Our debt is around $5.5 million. There is a lot of historical debt in that, which began when we built the Legends Stand. Our plan to grow Carlton includes revenue from outside of the normal football channels.

It'd wanna not be gambling. You're barely making $2.5 million profit off of 290 machines. It's a disaster.

ML: Richmond in the opening game and Collingwood on a Saturday afternoon at the MCG are must fixtures.

You're asking for the Pies on a Saturday arvo when it's a given? Why? Ask for the Hawks at the MCG instead.

JA: In recent weeks I have watched under-18 games at Ikon Park and I saw a good building for the players and a good playing surface, but it is surrounded by a very tired looking facility.

ML: We have appointed a consultant to start a master plan for Ikon Park. The ground is fantastic but the reality is the back of the house is falling down.


The appointment of the consultant happened 12 months ago. The master plan should have been done. It's a 3 month job. What's the hold up? Care to correct JA on the ground's condition? The ground is far from fantastic. It has required a major drainage overhaul for 2 years and the board nor the CEO can convince the AFL to pony up a single cent - even though they schedule games there. This is Negotiation 101 and you're flunking.

Why not sell the lease to the AFL? You're forking over hundreds of thousands in maintenance every year for what? Training? You've got 19 years remaining on something Melbourne City Council owns. It made sense in 1996 when that was negotiated, but now? Not so much. You could clear the debt in one foul swoop. The powers that be might even let you play a few games there once they've fixed it up. But don't fix up a white elephant that isn't yours.



Jasper goes bang !
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:53 pm 
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Joined especially for that post?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:57 pm 
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Jasper Jones wrote:
You could clear the debt in one foul swoop.





Can someone do a welfare check on Moshe please?


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Caro says.... the rumblings of a board challenge are close to the mark.


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Rexy wrote:
Caro says.... the rumblings of a board challenge are close to the mark.

When I was at the Melbourne game this year, I was sitting in the bay next to John Elliott. There were a few Carlton fans sitting behind him, getting in his ear, saying "Jack we need you back! When are you coming back!" Etc. Jack said to the guys behind him, "Just wait til the end of the season. You'll see."

I laughed. Yikes. :?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:28 pm 
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Yikes Indeed. I'll be the first to write an over reaction post and say, "If he comes back, I'm done".

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:31 pm 
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All of a sudden maybe Elliott Jr. Isn't so busy anymore?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:31 pm 
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I'll cancel the membership I just bought if the Board is challenged.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:42 pm 
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septembergurl wrote:
There were a few Carlton fans sitting behind him, getting in his ear, saying "Jack we need you back! When are you coming back!" Etc. Jack said to the guys behind him, "Just wait til the end of the season. You'll see."


Obviously doesn't know Jack. :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:46 pm 
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The Normal One wrote:
I'll cancel the membership I just bought if the Board is challenged.

What's wrong with the board being democratically accountable to the members ?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:14 pm 
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Me thinks the factions don't like being pushed aside, losing their power right before their eyes.

It's beautiful, the club is moving out of the 80's. Brings a tear to my eye

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:40 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
I'll cancel the membership I just bought if the Board is challenged.

What's wrong with the board being democratically accountable to the members ?


Nothing if the Club was in a shambles. The perception is very positive from what I see and read.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:46 pm 
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If this new ticket vows to move heaven and earth to get Menzel back then they have my vote :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:06 pm 
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The Normal One wrote:
I'll cancel the membership I just bought if the Board is challenged.


Really?

This board consists of a lot of people that have been there quite a while. I'm sure their heart is in the right place but we've been terrible on and off field.

MLG may be turning things around, but if someone else wants to challenge and have a go at it I wouldn't be disappointed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:08 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
I'll cancel the membership I just bought if the Board is challenged.


Really?

This board consists of a lot of people that have been there quite a while. I'm sure their heart is in the right place but we've been terrible on and off field.

MLG may be turning things around, but if someone else wants to challenge and have a go at it I wouldn't be disappointed.


The board with the right leadership is moving the titanic away from the iceberg. What is a new board going to do better?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:10 pm 
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plenty of deadwood around the boardroom table still

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