well i do recall mckay was not appointed originally by any process under sticks and swan

I have no idea if he should stay or go. I don't know what he does on a daily basis or how he goes about his business or what other outside factors effect his decisions.

My POV on this discussion came about because of what I believe is the vocal minority of the 1% brigade. The ......'Everyone says' argument that I find hard to stomach.

In terms of the Salary cap issues I would suggest and/or guess they revolve alot around guys like Thomas and Warnock. But again I don't have the facts so can't really comment.

Regards Cazzesman

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Get Icke back!

Hehe. Took the words outta my mouth.

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In just over a year posting here, I'm not sure I've ever seen you actually articulate an opinion or position on, well, anything.

Pretty quick to have a crack at others for doing so though.

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Great post...... (there's an opinion)

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We had salary cap issues before Thomas arrived, and prior to MM's arrival... we had players like Davies and Joseph to 2 year deals, Carrazzo 3 year deals etc etc

I don't think you can blame one player (Warnock) but even so, his last contract was signed while McKay was in charge..

It's also been reported that SOS was amazed at a lot of the existing contracts...

Regardless of the details, someone at the club must have been responsible for the management our salary cap over the last few years...

People tend to forget
2 years ago Malthouse was brought in to take this playing group to the next level.
As far as everyone was concerned we had tge players just not the coach to put the finishing touches on them.
I can fully understand why there was cap pressure

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What were Brock's indiscretions that we kept out of the media? Seriously, I don't know.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I reckon McKay, like Ratts, has been learning on the job but has learned quickly with the advent of SOS. There now appears, if not a steeliness, then at least a resolve. He previously came across as nervy and unsure of himself.

Andy came in when the club was truly bigger than just a mess and tried to steer it but my feeling from the outside is that there have been to many other controlling individuals steering many other areas and too many areas trying to fix at once. What hope does he have if say the CEO and Coach are best mates and making the decisions?

The complete club has been unsure of itself, until Trigg arrived. I actually feel every move he has made has been a good one so far. I doubt he won't make mistakes but he will turn the club around, that i truly am starting to believe now. Give Trigg time and if Andy gets moved on then I'll accept he failed but until then, I believe an ex-AFL admin person should at the very least do his job well.

When Swann was CEO I always got the feeling that despite what position people at the club held the actual structure was all over the shop with people (board members) not sticking to their own job description.
Perhaps Trigg has tidied up the working structure and process.

I've been highly critical of McKay based on outcomes (contracts handed out to players, other players let go etc) in his department. I would have been delighted to see the back of him. That said he's impressed me so far this trade period so let's see if it continues.

Absolutely, 100% agree.

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..what did juddy say?..

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