The Year in Review - 2015

Effes · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:59 pm

dannyboy wrote:

So it was the AFL that made Essendon** hire Hird and then the whole drug saga?

It was the AFL that told Carlton to trade for Brock, for Warnock, for Watson, Lucas, Mitchell McCarthy Mcinnes Jones, Tutt (just to name some)? To throw away draft picks like discarded paper at a ticker-tape parade? To always want what others have and never think about developing what we have got? To waste money, to waste talent, to waste years?

Truth is Essendon** and Carlton are 2 shit clubs.

Has Carlton finally begin to turn it around? We'll know in about three years I think. Will we finally draft and then develop? Have we finally found a modern coach?

I know the AFL have done some crap things but compared to this club of ours they are the smartest, most well run sporting organization in the world.

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

Effes wrote:

dannyboy wrote:

So it was the AFL that made Essendon*** hire Hird and then the whole drug saga?

It was the AFL that told Carlton to trade for Brock, for Warnock, for Watson, Lucas, Mitchell McCarthy Mcinnes Jones, Tutt (just to name some)? To throw away draft picks like discarded paper at a ticker-tape parade? To always want what others have and never think about developing what we have got? To waste money, to waste talent, to waste years?

Truth is Essendon*** and Carlton are 2 shit clubs.

Has Carlton finally begin to turn it around? We'll know in about three years I think. Will we finally draft and then develop? Have we finally found a modern coach?

I know the AFL have done some crap things but compared to this club of ours they are the smartest, most well run sporting organization in the world.

+2

2ndeffort · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:11 pm

A West Coast /Adelaide/Freo Grand Final should be a triumph for Dan Andrews new Public Holiday!!

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:41 pm

moshe25 wrote:

Effes wrote:

dannyboy wrote:

So it was the AFL that made Essendon**** hire Hird and then the whole drug saga?

It was the AFL that told Carlton to trade for Brock, for Warnock, for Watson, Lucas, Mitchell McCarthy Mcinnes Jones, Tutt (just to name some)? To throw away draft picks like discarded paper at a ticker-tape parade? To always want what others have and never think about developing what we have got? To waste money, to waste talent, to waste years?

Truth is Essendon**** and Carlton are 2 shit clubs.

Has Carlton finally begin to turn it around? We'll know in about three years I think. Will we finally draft and then develop? Have we finally found a modern coach?

I know the AFL have done some crap things but compared to this club of ours they are the smartest, most well run sporting organization in the world.

+2

Painful, but +3

Princes Park Whistler · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:04 pm

toddkurnski wrote:

Not a single memorable victory

The Port game was good.
About the only game i had a real care feeling.

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

Cons:

Tutt winning best first year player.

camel · **Posted:** Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:36 pm

idle wrote:

I know people are stoked Essendon** are finished, and Collingwood got nowhere, but for me, when you have teams like Essendon**, Collingwood and Carlton failing to make finals, the GAME itself blows.

Year in review?

How the AFL has systematically ruined this once great game?

I for one cannot wait to watch Freo v Westcoast play off in a grand final ...

And I certainly cant wait for the upcoming grand finals of GWS v Suns ...

Another Brisbane era should be awesome ...

Does anyone remember the Richmond v Carlton final? Anyone remember the spine tingling ROAR of the crowd that day? THAT'S FOOTBALL!!!

Collingwood out, Essendon** out and Carlton with another spoon? Does anyone see something horribly wrong with this picture?

The AFL might think national expansion is the best thing since sliced bread, but when I see teams like Collingwood, Essendon** and Carlton going nowhere fast, I see the game going nowhere faster.

2015 for me is another example of how this once great game is being slowly destroyed by the AFL.

Interstate grand finals have ZERO importance in my home and will not be watched PERIOD! What do I give a sh*t about GWS, Freo, Sydney, Port, Westcoast and so on?

You want to see a spectacle that make the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end? Collingwood v Carlton grand final. Essendon** v Carlton grand final.

100,000+ mental supporters inside the MCG with the entire world hanging on the outcome. THAT'S FOOTBALL!!!!!

What is called football today, hell I don't know what to call it, but it ain't a camels butt hole on what I remember football to be.

The AFL can try as they might to promote and sensationalise the game all they can, grand final parade through the middle of town with GWS v Sun's players in the cars? HUH? what a joke!

I'm lucky enough to remember those parades when it was Collingwood v Carlton and believe me, the parades leading up to the big day were magical.

2015 another crap year were football takes a step closer to nothingness ...

Yeah, nah.

The VFL was going broke. I wonder if we'll ever get to a stage where Victorians recognise this. Further, will we ever see the day where most Victorians recognise they no longer have a mortgage on the game?

I love the romantic recollections you have too. They were great days. Nobody is trying to rewrite history or deny the significance of the VFL, but it's a bygone era.

Heavs · **Posted:** Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:53 am

Positive: UNDEFEATED INTERNATIONALLY. Should be our membership slogan for next year.

gerry atric · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am **Posts:** 2125

Positives - Murph's captaincy and onfield leadership exemplary in second half of season.
Docherty, Tuohy Buckly Cripps (obviously) Levi (and his goalkicking), Graham. Whiley Holman and BB promising.
We now seem to have a good CEO who actually understands the modern world.
Getting rid of overpaid diva Mick, no I in team but there sure is one in MIck. Indicative of the moronic thinking of the board.

New coach - for the first time in history we have had a process, hope he is great.

Negatives - take your pick.

Only decent win was Port which was a cracking game. We need to give supporters hope before everyone drops off.

Drafting is crucial. Before we get too excited about SOS's genius, in 2012 he had first three picks, he took Whitfield, O'Rourke and Plowman, then Melb stuffed up again with Toumpas - next three picks were Stringer, McRae and Wines. Top picks aren't a guarantee and the difference between picking Toumpas and O'Rourke higher than Stringer and Wines is enormous. we have had high picks before and we have just won a wooden spoon.

The previous year GWS had the first 5 picks. PA got Wingard with pick 6.

We have to get top picks but if we stuff them up, maybe the club will never recover, maybe we are the new millennium Fitzroy.

scottopee · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:02 am **Posts:** 1724

dannyboy wrote:

So it was the AFL that made Essendon** hire Hird and then the whole drug saga?

It was the AFL that told Carlton to trade for Brock, for Warnock, for Watson, Lucas, Mitchell McCarthy Mcinnes Jones, Tutt (just to name some)? To throw away draft picks like discarded paper at a ticker-tape parade? To always want what others have and never think about developing what we have got? To waste money, to waste talent, to waste years?

Truth is Essendon** and Carlton are 2 shit clubs.

Has Carlton finally begin to turn it around? We'll know in about three years I think. Will we finally draft and then develop? Have we finally found a modern coach?

I know the AFL have done some crap things but compared to this club of ours they are the smartest, most well run sporting organization in the world.

Sick of hearing how the AFL our out to get us! Please :roll:

Blueboy74 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:28 pm

gerry atric wrote:

Positives - Murph's captaincy and onfield leadership exemplary in second half of season.
Docherty, Tuohy Buckly Cripps (obviously) Levi (and his goalkicking), Graham. Whiley Holman and BB promising.
We now seem to have a good CEO who actually understands the modern world.
Getting rid of overpaid diva Mick, no I in team but there sure is one in MIck. Indicative of the moronic thinking of the board.

New coach - for the first time in history we have had a process, hope he is great.

Negatives - take your pick.

Only decent win was Port which was a cracking game. We need to give supporters hope before everyone drops off.

Drafting is crucial. Before we get too excited about SOS's genius, in 2012 he had first three picks, he took Whitfield, O'Rourke and Plowman, then Melb stuffed up again with Toumpas - next three picks were Stringer, McRae and Wines. Top picks aren't a guarantee and the difference between picking Toumpas and O'Rourke higher than Stringer and Wines is enormous. we have had high picks before and we have just won a wooden spoon.

The previous year GWS had the first 5 picks. PA got Wingard with pick 6.

We have to get top picks but if we stuff them up, maybe the club will never recover, maybe we are the new millennium Fitzroy.

Agree that top picks aren't a guarantee, but GWS was an unusual situation in that they were building a list from scratch that required a balance of all types of players, rather than just picking the best available.

Wingard pretty much told them to not waste their time picking him as he'd be on the first plane out of there once his contract expires......

2ndeffort · **Posted:** Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:03 pm

Pro: CFC playing in September!!

Con: CFC losing that single game to Haw and winning the wooden spoon

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:34 pm

Who was responsible for trading out Betts, bring in Thomas, signing Liam Jones up on a 3 year frigen deal, etc etc......

Are they still at the club? If not - GOOD. If yes..... why???

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:41 pm

ryan2000 wrote:

Who was responsible for trading out Betts, bring in Thomas, signing Liam Jones up on a 3 year frigen deal, etc etc......

Are they still at the club? If not - GOOD. If yes..... why???

Football Director Adrian Gleeson is still around. :wink:

TomAlvin'sWig · **Joined:** Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:11 pm **Posts:** 1654

2ndeffort wrote:

Pro: CFC playing in September!!

Con: CFC losing that single game to Haw and winning the wooden spoon

very funny

Franc de Borges · **Joined:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:36 am **Posts:** 185

Pros:
- Cripps
- It's over

Cons:
- Undeniable confirmation that the best club of the 20th century is the worst club of the 21st

Bluey44 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:29 am

Donstuie wrote:

moshe25 wrote:

Effes wrote:

dannyboy wrote:

So it was the AFL that made Essendon***** hire Hird and then the whole drug saga?

It was the AFL that told Carlton to trade for Brock, for Warnock, for Watson, Lucas, Mitchell McCarthy Mcinnes Jones, Tutt (just to name some)? To throw away draft picks like discarded paper at a ticker-tape parade? To always want what others have and never think about developing what we have got? To waste money, to waste talent, to waste years?

Truth is Essendon***** and Carlton are 2 shit clubs.

Has Carlton finally begin to turn it around? We'll know in about three years I think. Will we finally draft and then develop? Have we finally found a modern coach?

I know the AFL have done some crap things but compared to this club of ours they are the smartest, most well run sporting organization in the world.

+2

Painful, but +3

+4
well said

Blame the board, blame the staff, blame some of the players.

robertbb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:06 pm **Posts:** 9354

Pro:
- Malthouse, Buttifant and Laidley gone
- The emergence of Patrick Cripps
- The upcoming culling of more dead wood
- The appointment of a young, modern coach via a proper process
- The apparent willingness to trade players of (some) currency today, to build a younger foundation that will hopefully challenge in the coming years
- The upcoming trade period, likely netting us: Weitering and Schache/Francis, James Aish, Bailey Rice, maybe Charlie Curnow.
- Losing to Haw by record margin (the wake up call we had to have)

Neg:
- Spoon (but there is an upside to it too)

I firmly believe the this season has brought with it the platform and opportunity to turn our future around in the next few years, and this time we have the people at the helm to do it right.

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:17 am

Pros: The emergence of Cripps, Buckley, Docherty and Graham, the return to form of Kreuzer, getting Bolton, the Club as a whole finally 'getting it' and undertaking a proper rebuild.
Cons: Mick, the beltings, injuries galore, 0 care factor from Hendo and Yazz.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:23 am

AGRO wrote:

ryan2000 wrote:

Who was responsible for trading out Betts, bring in Thomas, signing Liam Jones up on a 3 year frigen deal, etc etc......

Are they still at the club? If not - GOOD. If yes..... why???

Football Director Adrian Gleeson is still around. :wink:

Is he accountable?
I know he's an Accountant, but that doesn't suggest he's good with anything other than numbers.

He's had his time.He's made plenty of mistakes. Those mentioned Im sure are the tip of the iceberg.

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