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doofdoof · **Joined:** Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:54 pm **Posts:** 2251

Yazzamatazz wrote:

If we land Weitering & Schache that will be the best draft webhave had ever...and thats not including whatever else we might have fall our way!

with henderson trade we could have 3 top 10 picks + some leverage using psd during trade period.
if anyone can @#$%&! this up it's us.

famousblueraincoat · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:19 pm

...are we seriously going to get pick 2.. for ... ahem.. Kruez..

sounds like a fairy tale.

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

famousblueraincoat wrote:

...are we seriously going to get pick 2.. for ... ahem.. Kruez..

sounds like a fairy tale.

given the Frawley precedent, pick 2 it should be

but we are Carlton so...

gerry atric · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am **Posts:** 2125

interesting so many seem to be salivating over pick 2 for Big K. K was a #1, so will #2 be as good as Gumbleton, Livo, Kostchke, Watts. Do we still think we are guaranteed a champion with a high pick?

camel · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:16 pm

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:17 pm

Big wraps on these guys.
Weirering especially was ready to play AFL this year according to Leppa after he trained with the Lions over pre season.

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:19 pm

Rexy wrote:

famousblueraincoat wrote:

...are we seriously going to get pick 2.. for ... ahem.. Kruez..

sounds like a fairy tale.

given the Frawley precedent, pick 2 it should be

but we are Carlton so...

Any bet they ll change the rules and give us a pick at the end of first round instead.

WOW · **Joined:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 pm **Posts:** 2028

gerry atric wrote:

interesting so many seem to be salivating over pick 2 for Big K. K was a #1, so will #2 be as good as Gumbleton, Livo, Kostchke, Watts. Do we still think we are guaranteed a champion with a high pick?

Big K has never got close to being a valid number one pick

If available, take the number 2 pick and run as fast as you can to ensure it is not a dream

Getting a number 2 pick for an average player could potentially be the 'real' start of our rebuild

Rod Waddell · **Joined:** Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:49 am **Posts:** 1650

Spoon # 4 in the last 14 completed seasons. That is a spoon just a touch over every 3 years.

That's a shit record. Hello AFL we need help.

How many bottom 4 finishes ihave we had over the last 14 seasons?

billc3 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:41 pm **Posts:** 4623

Would not move Kruezer unless I had a guarantee from AFL of pick 2 signed in Gillon's blood and his testicles stapled to the agreement as collateral for any possible variation

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

billc3 wrote:

Would not move Kruezer unless I had a guarantee from AFL of pick 2 signed in Gillon's blood and his testicles stapled to the agreement as collateral for any possible variation

It's got nothing to do with us if he chooses to leave. We get what the rules state we are entitled to.

famousblueraincoat · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:46 pm

They wont give us pick 2. They just wont.

We need a priority pick though..

club29 · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:47 pm

King Kenny wrote:

billc3 wrote:

Would not move Kruezer unless I had a guarantee from AFL of pick 2 signed in Gillon's blood and his testicles stapled to the agreement as collateral for any possible variation

It's got nothing to do with us if he chooses to leave. We get what the rules state we are entitled to.

Can't we match the other clubs offer ?

So we match it unless it is high enough to get us pick 2.

toddkurnski · **Joined:** Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 am **Posts:** 3581

King Kenny wrote:

billc3 wrote:

Would not move Kruezer unless I had a guarantee from AFL of pick 2 signed in Gillon's blood and his testicles stapled to the agreement as collateral for any possible variation

It's got nothing to do with us if he chooses to leave. We get what the rules state we are entitled to.

The problem is there is no transparency. So the AFL can just make it up.

The rules regarding what contract size and length gets what band compo aren't published anywhere (are they?)

doofdoof · **Joined:** Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:54 pm **Posts:** 2251

famousblueraincoat wrote:

They wont give us pick 2. They just wont.

We need a priority pick though..

From AFL Site

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

If it is a decent contract, say 4 years at 700 then we'll get pick 2.

toddkurnski · **Joined:** Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 am **Posts:** 3581

doofdoof wrote:

famousblueraincoat wrote:

They wont give us pick 2. They just wont.

We need a priority pick though..

From AFL Site

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

If it is a decent contract, say 4 years at 700 then we'll get pick 2.

Would just be nice for the AFL to, as my maths teacher would say, show their working

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:10 pm

Rumour is Dogs and Pies are offering Kreuz 4 years at $700K
We re offering 2 years at $400K

thegezman · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:12 pm

Given we were "shocked" not to get any compo for Waite , I'd say we won't know what pick we would get for Kruzer until after the fact.

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

Dominator_7 wrote:

Rumour is Dogs and Pies are offering Kreuz 4 years at $700K
We re offering 2 years at $400K

Win:Win.

Age · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:51 pm

Hey. AT least we win something this year. Positive :razz:

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