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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:27 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Out of our best 22:

Judd
Murphy
Gibbs
Thomas
Graham
Armfield
Hendo
Casboult
Carrots
Byrne
White
Holman (maybe)


Disinterested/playing injured:

Menzel
Yarran

14 players listed above - as if we could get any closer than when we played them in first half of the year. 75 points the margin that game.


We can take Judd Hendo and Yarran off that list.
No longer Carlton players


Murphy
Gibbs
Casboult
Graham

are the only best 22 left of that list.
Shows how bad we really are.

If Armfield, White, Thomas are best 22....we are stuffed
Byrne and Holman could be, the rest meh! or past it/retired

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:41 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Out of our best 22:

Judd
Murphy
Gibbs
Thomas
Graham
Armfield
Hendo
Casboult
Carrots
Byrne
White
Holman (maybe)


Disinterested/playing injured:

Menzel
Yarran

14 players listed above - as if we could get any closer than when we played them in first half of the year. 75 points the margin that game.


We can take Judd Hendo and Yarran off that list.
No longer Carlton players


Murphy
Gibbs
Casboult
Graham

are the only best 22 left of that list.
Shows how bad we really are.

If Armfield, White, Thomas are best 22....we are stuffed
Byrne and Holman could be, the rest meh! or past it/retired


Sadly I pretty much agree with Mark, I fear the next couple of seasons will be grim. Just as long as we can see the club is heading in the right direction; in SOS we trust.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:27 pm 
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doofdoof wrote:
shocking second half but really what did we expect with the 22 that ran out.
i am buoyed by the type of players SOS has picked at GWS.

for the record cripps' stinker netted him 30 touches, 9 clearances ( 5 centre), 1 goal assist, 3 tackles.
pretty much a lone hand in the midfield - get the kid some help fast!


Who said he had a stinker, was our best again?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:40 pm 
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Have an ordinary list but truth is today we had 26 players to select senior team from

That number of players out will significantly affect team performance and also have had 2 passengers
yarran and Hendo for about half the season

Team will be immeasurably better with Gibbs Murphy graham Thomas casboult fit and firing

Next year will be better because of the number of players we have blooded this year -still think smith Jaksch Byrne Holman have potential and will improve next year

Graham Buckley bell have improved immeasurably this year

Today thought bell and cripps and Buckley were good
Walsh and Bokehorst need more conditioning but look promising
I thought Whiley did some heavy work

Obviously trade draft period decisions are crucial

Certainly won't be believing that 2016 will be worse than 2015 at this stage
Many changes lots of work a refurbished list and a new coach gives us great hope
Go Blues


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:44 pm 
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Should also have said thought Dick played his best game so far -needs to work on disposal though


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:52 pm 
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Missed the game today as it was totally irrelevant and without meaning.

A preseason will see us a lot more competitive next year.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:00 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Out of our best 22:

Judd
Murphy
Gibbs
Thomas
Graham
Armfield
Hendo
Casboult
Carrots
Byrne
White
Holman (maybe)


Disinterested/playing injured:

Menzel
Yarran

14 players listed above - as if we could get any closer than when we played them in first half of the year. 75 points the margin that game.


We can take Judd Hendo and Yarran off that list.
No longer Carlton players


Murphy
Gibbs
Casboult
Graham

are the only best 22 left of that list.
Shows how bad we really are.

If Armfield, White, Thomas are best 22....we are stuffed
Byrne and Holman could be, the rest meh! or past it/retired


Thomas is not only best 22, he is best 11 (and comfortably). Saying that he isn't is just ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:50 pm 
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Blues2005 wrote:
Mark J wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Out of our best 22:

Judd
Murphy
Gibbs
Thomas
Graham
Armfield
Hendo
Casboult
Carrots
Byrne
White
Holman (maybe)


Disinterested/playing injured:

Menzel
Yarran

14 players listed above - as if we could get any closer than when we played them in first half of the year. 75 points the margin that game.


We can take Judd Hendo and Yarran off that list.
No longer Carlton players


Murphy
Gibbs
Casboult
Graham

are the only best 22 left of that list.
Shows how bad we really are.

If Armfield, White, Thomas are best 22....we are stuffed
Byrne and Holman could be, the rest meh! or past it/retired


Thomas is not only best 22, he is best 11 (and comfortably). Saying that he isn't is just ridiculous.


Agreed. I reckon he was in for a good season before he did his shoulder

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:33 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Like Barkers comments after the game.

Rather not talk about the players who didn't perform. The ones that did like Cripps Buckley Docherty Kruezer are the future of the club.


Kreuzer performed today?


12 touches, 1 mark, 25 hitouts for Kreuz
11 touches, 6 marks, 37 hitouts for Downie in his 6th game

That's not performing in my book


Great post. When will supporters learn Kreuzer is not a centre bounce Ruckman and you can not win big matches without one. Think Fraser v Clark Keating. I want Kreuzer to stay but he is a boundary line Ruckman, really the best second Ruck in the competition and would be so damaging if he can further develop his forwardline play


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:53 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
Have an ordinary list but truth is today we had 26 players to select senior team from

That number of players out will significantly affect team performance and also have had 2 passengers
yarran and Hendo for about half the season

Team will be immeasurably better with Gibbs Murphy graham Thomas casboult fit and firing

Next year will be better because of the number of players we have blooded this year -still think smith Jaksch Byrne Holman have potential and will improve next year

Graham Buckley bell have improved immeasurably this year

Today thought bell and cripps and Buckley were good
Walsh and Bokehorst need more conditioning but look promising
I thought Whiley did some heavy work

Obviously trade draft period decisions are crucial

Certainly won't be believing that 2016 will be worse than 2015 at this stage
Many changes lots of work a refurbished list and a new coach gives us great hope
Go Blues


My thoughts exactly. Throw Cam Giles in the 22 instead of Rowe, too.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:44 am 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Like Barkers comments after the game.

Rather not talk about the players who didn't perform. The ones that did like Cripps Buckley Docherty Kruezer are the future of the club.


Kreuzer performed today?


12 touches, 1 mark, 25 hitouts for Kreuz
11 touches, 6 marks, 37 hitouts for Downie in his 6th game

That's not performing in my book


Great post. When will supporters learn Kreuzer is not a centre bounce Ruckman and you can not win big matches without one. Think Fraser v Clark Keating. I want Kreuzer to stay but he is a boundary line Ruckman, really the best second Ruck in the competition and would be so damaging if he can further develop his forwardline play


Pick 3 is worth more than a half arsed ruckman/forward.

I think we are mistaking heart and courage with ability because we are so desperate for players who even show that they care in this disastrous season


Bring on pick 3


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:41 am 
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Kudos to the cheer squad that turn up each week.

Your pain threshold must be high or you must really hate your family.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:43 am 
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chelodina wrote:
Kudos to the cheer squad that turn up each week.

Your pain threshold must be high or you must really hate your family.


They watched us win last week


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:44 am 
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Blues2005 wrote:
Mark J wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Out of our best 22:

Judd
Murphy
Gibbs
Thomas
Graham
Armfield
Hendo
Casboult
Carrots
Byrne
White
Holman (maybe)


Disinterested/playing injured:

Menzel
Yarran

14 players listed above - as if we could get any closer than when we played them in first half of the year. 75 points the margin that game.


We can take Judd Hendo and Yarran off that list.
No longer Carlton players


Murphy
Gibbs
Casboult
Graham

are the only best 22 left of that list.
Shows how bad we really are.

If Armfield, White, Thomas are best 22....we are stuffed
Byrne and Holman could be, the rest meh! or past it/retired


Thomas is not only best 22, he is best 11 (and comfortably). Saying that he isn't is just ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:40 am 
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Blues2005 wrote:
Thomas is not only best 22, he is best 11 (and comfortably). Saying that he isn't is just ridiculous.


past collingwood glories don't count for us
he hasn't contributed anything to us in two years, when he does and consistently then we can count him in


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:45 am 
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bax wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
shocking second half but really what did we expect with the 22 that ran out.
i am buoyed by the type of players SOS has picked at GWS.

for the record cripps' stinker netted him 30 touches, 9 clearances ( 5 centre), 1 goal assist, 3 tackles.
pretty much a lone hand in the midfield - get the kid some help fast!


Who said he had a stinker, was our best again?


Someone in match day thread - they were momentarily frustrated I'm sure


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:08 am 
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Just too many players without a football brain that also can't kick.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:10 am 
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The last 7mins of the third quarter on the TV clock was deplorable.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:18 am 
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doofdoof wrote:
bax wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
shocking second half but really what did we expect with the 22 that ran out.
i am buoyed by the type of players SOS has picked at GWS.

for the record cripps' stinker netted him 30 touches, 9 clearances ( 5 centre), 1 goal assist, 3 tackles.
pretty much a lone hand in the midfield - get the kid some help fast!


Who said he had a stinker, was our best again?


Someone in match day thread - they were momentarily frustrated I'm sure



Is that what you call 15 years of mismanagement.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:18 am 
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i'd like to know what the strike rate of kicking backwards for success is. it seems that most of the times we kick backwards we turn it over and the opposition scores. it's hard to watch when we win a possession on the wing, give up ground and go back into defensive 50, and then turn it over.


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